Fire Emblem Speed

[Reppuzan]

@12cheeper

I understand that you're as opposed to this as I am, but as JSW said, we cannot provoke others.

@JSW

That was my plan from the start. Darkanine also agreed to it, so if there aren't any other objections, I'm making the changes.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

@12cheeper, you have already been warned for almost causing a flame war, end your attempts at provocation or you will be reported for continuously attempting to provoke others.

 

[fandom_12cheeper]

When did I say the best feat was wall level?Best feat sans God tiers and dragon vein I can recall is around MCB-small town IIRC.Wall levels reasonable for lower tiers tho tbh.(because no one scales to Fates characters.Not even awakening ones)And please,why would I need to provoke anyone to start a flame war?I've barely been in this thread.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Sorry for late reply, been trying to fight the lag. But I think @Reppuzan seems quite reasonable.

And I agree 100%; no flame wars please.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I still think that by the sheer act of being able to shoot something fast but dodgeable, it can be dodged by enemies.

But, i guess most of you guys agree with this, so, i think this is it for me on this thread.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I made a bolting calc, but i think its wrong.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

@12cheeper, the base form thread is where you said that, and even if you didn't I DID say "iirc" beforehand

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Actually, since you have said things such as how I don't know anything about what I'm talking about and how everything I've said is wrong on the Lyon thread, even to the point of saying bad things about my own intelligence, every time I have seen you you have insulted someone in some way, I think there should be no more second chances

 

[Miles_Romero12]

So...are ya going to report him?

 

[Dark649]

Sorry to interrupt but bolting is Transonic or Hypersonic?.

 

[Antvasima]

@Reppuzan Sorry. I might have been partially at fault in allowing the change. Feel free to adjust the profiles if this is incorrect.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Bolting is being considered as cloud to ground lightning

 

[Dark649]

Isn't true lightning Massively Hypersonic?.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Maybe High Hypersonic if we have the characters dodge "one space" in Fire Emblem terms.

That's what i did in my calc.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Real lightning may range from Massively Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic+ Judging by the lightning dodging rules page. 100,000 m/s low end, 440,000 m/s average, and 1,400,000 m/s high end. That's the speed of the bolt itself, but speed required to dodge it may vary.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Im so mad right now.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

What pages are left to be updated?

 

[Reppuzan]

Er... you'd need to get that checked out on the Calculation Evaluations board (it's under Wiki Management).

 

[Miles_Romero12]

All pages that do not have an alternate picture thingy on their pages now have a new summary, quote, picture and skill set.


I will later calc Aureola to have it implemented in the future.

Taking a break.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

FTL to MFTL Aureola.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Miles_Romero12/Fire_Emblem:_Still_mad_about_Aureola.

 

[fandom_12cheeper]

No duh dodging a Ray of light would be FTL.I always just figured that that was this site just trying to hide the outlier tbh.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Actually, i dont care about the dodging speed on this one.

I just want to know how fast would a beam of light traveling from the sun to the earth on 15 seconds be.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Antvasima

I don't mind in particular (you're way too busy to cross-refrence things for a series you aren't invested in and everyone bombarded you with details) it's just that I was irritated at the thought of someone upgrading the entire verse based on a single misinterpretation.

@Miles Romero

I'm still opposed to the thought of upgrading the characters through Aureola when no one has ever actually used the attack against the heroes.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Like i said, i dont care about that right now.

This calc is aiming for attack speed.

And, even if the rest agree with you, i still think scaling from enemies that can dodge Aureola is 100% logical and valid.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, the reasoning you're using "hasn't been used against the heroes" is faulty, but given that it was never dodged in cutscene by an enemy, it shouldn't scale in my opinion (Who knows, maybe this will change if there's ever a prequel made about the Scouring, which I'd probably play the heck out of, or any prequel made about the already established lore and backstory)

 

[Miles_Romero12]

But yeah, wathever.

 

[Reppuzan]

@JSW

In the manga, it's a massive beam of destruction that wipes out scores of soldiers in a single hit.

Yes, the games are the primary canon, but I highly doubt that anyone in Fire Emblem is dodging this.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Like i said, wathever.

You are just assuming that no one in FE can dodge that.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles

For a number of reasons:

1) It was never canonically used against the heroes.

2) It's a wide reaching beam that obliterates scores of mook soldiers who can at least slightly slow down the heroes who can dodge via RNG.

3) It's a horrific outlier in the scope of Fire Emblem's other feats.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Miles Unless someone actually does dodge it youre just assuming they can...

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I find myself agreeing with Reppuzan. Even if they can dodge it, it seems like an outlier considering they struggle to dodge arrows and throwing weapons.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I also agree that Reppuzan makes good points.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Bolting is dodged a lot (although this is due to an attempt to balance long ranged tomes, but seeing as FE7 characters survived, shown with them being in FE6) we should scale them to dodging Bolting until there is another game set in Elibe that has a cutscene where Aureola is dodged

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Are you guys going to continue with this?

I mean, it has already been implemented.

I still dont find this logical at all.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Can we move on to FTL-MFTL aureola now?

I wiill be making another revision thread in a couple of weeks anyways.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, it would only be attack speed, and Athos is the only one who used it in game without giving it to someone else

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Hah.

by that logic, Eliwood, Hector and lyn never received their holy weapons.

May i remind you who had those in hos inventory?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, what I meant is that it isn't a Prf weapon

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

In FE7 those are Prf weapons, but a key for people who could use them would be nice

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Erm...How do you know that?

Watch the final chapter again, he also mentions he has the tomes on his power, like if he was announcing them.

I mean, its still just time until someone makes a Lucius page. And one more thing. You guys should mind the fire emblem canon.

If we just assume everything by cinematics and "new" aspects like Reppuzan above, Lyn x Hector is canon, Ninian x Eliwood is canon, Eliwood, Lyn and Hector fougjt Nergal at once and each gave their own speeches before fighting him, and Lyon would be possesed and manipulated at the same time.

If you ignore player choice, you ignore the entire plot.