Finally a worthy opponent for Madoka?

[ZacharyGrossman273]

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What just happened?

 

[ShakeResounding]

Well then... Enerjak FRA.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

(Shrugs)

Jack wins then.

 

[Schnee_One]

Madoka erases....again.

What a twist

Enerjak FRA

 

[ShakeResounding]

Enerjak: 11 (Kal, Cal, Schnee, Shadow, Zach, Homu, Elimination, Emperor, Nedge, Drago, and myself)

Madoka: 0

Unexpectedly, grace begins.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

But what if Madoka gives him a sugar addictio

 

[ShakeResounding]

I don't see Resistance to Diabetes, so...

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I wish to try one more time, would p.null works? It only takes a glance to activate it.

 

[Schnee_One]

Mini derail because why not

Does Madoka have anything above say...UKG? Or is UKG just Madoka on steroids

 

[Kaltias]

I doubt that they can "look at each other" in the conventional sense when both are abstracts encompassing multiverses

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I don't think power null would work on someone who is far stronger.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

UKG is above Madoka, yeah. Passive Wealth Production for the wi

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Mini derail because why not

Does Madoka have anything above say...UKG? Or is UKG just Madoka on steroids

The latter, since UKG does everything Madoka can do.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Her law manip should be above UKG since the latter resisted her initial law which says "no witch" by appearing after being erased. It imprission UKG within Nonexistence Multiverse.

 

[Kaltias]

Madoka is harder to affect, UKG is harder to kill.

They are canonically equal

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah, Madoka's law manipulation blows Archie's via the SGW out of the water.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Enerjak resists law manipulation and encompasses a bigger multiverse.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Enerjak FRA

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wait, why does Enerjak resist law manipulation? He died to the SGW, very thing that gives the justification.

 

[Schnee_One]

Actually True Enerjak was fine

His Avatars not so much

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Wait, why does Enerjak resist law manipulation? He died to the SGW, very thing that gives the justification.

It was Super Sonic's failed Chaos Control when he tried to reverse the wave because he got interrupted by Eggman.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Tomato tomahto.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Would Galactus be a good opponent for Madoka?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I saw that one get done before and Madoka won.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I can think of a cooooouple good opponents for Madoka, but eh, I'd rather not continue the Madoka spam.

 

[Kaltias]

Would Galactus be a good opponent for Madoka?

She won back when her only useful haxes were law and concept manip so probably no.

Dunno if Galan received updates since then though

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He did actually

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Maybe? Was LifeBringer a thing back then?

 

[Kaltias]

Yes.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

He did actually

What changed?

 

[Idol_of_Legend_and_Elimination]

Enerjak FRA...I guess?

Look at how far Archie Sonic became.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Eberjak fra

 

[Elizhaa]

I miss a good debate! Anyway, Enerjak FRA!

 

[ZeroTwo64]

By PMMM standards most of Enerjak's stuff would be considered magic (given that basically everything Madoka has falls under that definition).

@Shake

What about concept hax? That's the kind of stuff more or less needed to kill Madoka

No, they are different from Puella Magi magic.

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Her law manip should be above UKG since the latter resisted her initial law which says "no witch" by appearing after being erased. It imprission UKG within Nonexistence Multiverse.

That is not resistance to Law Manipulation. That is Godly Regenerationn.

 

[Schnee_One]

Law Manipulation would continuously erase her if that were true but it's not, she resisted it and stopped herself from being erased continuously

 

[Dragopentling]

I'm taking a look at Enerjak right now, and then the discussion in this thread, and I don't see how this isn't a Stomp. Madoka literally can't do anything back.

 

[Kaltias]

Considering that Enerjak doesn't resist EE, Madoka saying "delet this" would work eventually.

She simply needs time due to Enerjak embodying stuff on a higher scale, and he can kill her in the meantime

 

[Dragopentling]

Considering that Enerjak doesn't resist EE, Madoka saying "delet this" would work eventually.

She simply needs time due to Enerjak embodying stuff on a higher scale, and he can kill her in the meantime

That is fair...at least she has a win con, but Enerjak's win con comes much faster. Enerjak FRA

P.S. Sorry Madoka, I still love you T-T

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

If Enerjak were to job hard enough, Madoka could pull off that nonexistence EE which is > standard conceptual erasure.

He won't though so he wins.