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Gotcha, just a second.Oh whoops I forgot to give you the stuff for why the storm is that big:
Not really a storm per say he just makes it cloudy across it all of it so weak instability would be best.
The clouds look to be Nimbostratus imo so at least using the average height above ground and cloud thickness with 18000km gets us
2,691,653,389,787,021,300kg
So that'd be 643.3206 Gigatons (High 6-C+) using weak instability.
If we were to use moderate at all then it'd be 1.6083 Teratons (Low 6-B)
If nothing else the game is consistent
and here's why we're using 18,000 km
This would still have to be adjusted to fit the 19km distance for the actual storm creation part of it
I also realized something wrong.This would still have to be adjusted to fit the 19km distance for the actual storm creation part of it
U probably know a ton more about clouds than me but here’s some things you should to account for
1. For primogenesis to accomplish its goal it’s needs to rain aether around the realm.
2. There’s very much a storm at least in Waloed,(there’s rain and lightning)
3. From the video we see of the beginning of primogenesis, it looks like a storm meaning it likely just dissipated by the next day.
Here:
I think the idea was the storm spread through out the entire realm then subsided later on in the game.
The problem is it cuts to the next day when it’s already pretty much done so we can only assume 24 hours.
I guess we could find out how long it takes for a storm to die down then subtract it by 24 hours to get a better timeframe?
Yeah I thought we've moved passed pointlessly region locking content but between untranslated guidebooks, VPNs and questionable localization it seems some peeps want to enforce pointless gatekeeping in an era where information has never been more accessible.Man I really hope we get the ultimania gets released outside of japan at some point
Maybe? Getting the Ultimania Archive was nothing short of a miracle, but we did end up getting some of the FFVII Remake Ultimanias. So maybe they'll are willing to test waters.Man I really hope we get the ultimania gets released outside of japan at some point
Or the game's localization being unceremoniously cancelled for some reason.Yeah I thought we've moved passed pointlessly region locking content but between untranslated guidebooks, VPNs and questionable localization it seems some peeps want to enforce pointless gatekeeping in an era where information has never been more accessible.
Ugh... I still shudder at the dark days of waiting several months to a few years for certain JRPGs to come West.
A bit embarassed to say it, but I can't do it myself. SorryThis would still have to be adjusted to fit the 19km distance for the actual storm creation part of it
Added the justifications on why it is an actual storm. Will you recalc, then?I also realized something wrong.
The numbers I use for my own part of the calc is lowball as I explained before that ultima actually did create a storm and not just made it cloudy.
Here:
This would make the numbers far higher than what we already have as the mass would be more
I can recalc it myself, I just need to find out how much more mass it would have.A bit embarassed to say it, but I can't do it myself. Sorry
Added the justifications on why it is an actual storm. Will you recalc, then?
Yeah nah that's not how that works, i didn't want to blog it myself since I would have to wait on someone else to evaluate but I'll go ahead and do that when I have the timeOk here’s what I got
Ultima storm calc redo
Due to dense cloud/storm justifications as listed above, instead of nimbostratus clouds we will be using cumulonimbus which are 1-3 times heavier than nimbostratus clouds
So for low end 1.5x the mass of the old calc
For mid end 2x the mass of the old calc
For high end 3x the mass of the old calc
Mass of the old calc=
2,691,653,389,787,021,300kg
Low end=
4.0374801e+18 kg
Now for spreading the storm across Valisthea which is 19,000km in 23 hours gives us 229.47 meters/second
KE= 1.0629974688489E+23 J or Country Level
Mid end=
Mass= 5.3833068e+18kg
KE= 1.4173299584652E+23 J or Country Level
High end
Mass= 8.0749602e+18 kg
KE= 2.1259949376978E+23 J or Country Level+
You can just tell me what I did wrong so u don’t have toYeah nah that's not how that works, i didn't want to blog it myself since I would have to wait on someone else to evaluate but I'll go ahead and do that when I have the time
Well its the same thing I said here but if ya don't really know about doing cloud calcs then it won't be as simple though its still not a hard fixThis would still have to be adjusted to fit the 19km distance for the actual storm creation part of it
No I would have to calc it and I said all the new feats would have to wait a bit since I'm indexing another verse but it won't be too long as im almost complete with my sandboxes for itAlso has anyone started the speed stuff?
Yeah imma just leave it up to uWell its the same thing I said here but if ya don't really know about doing cloud calcs then it won't be as simple though its still not a hard fix
No problemNo I would have to calc it and I said all the new feats would have to wait a bit since I'm indexing another verse but it won't be too long as im almost complete with my sandboxes for it
I mentioned a couple of pages ago, I can't calc whatsoever, a bit embarassing but yeah. I offered to compile the feat in a blog because the wiki wasn't working properly for Dust and he couldn't create the blog.Well its the same thing I said here but if ya don't really know about doing cloud calcs then it won't be as simple though its still not a hard fix
Yeah its all good I'll get to it after im done with gravity rush hereI mentioned a couple of pages ago, I can't calc whatsoever, a bit embarassing but yeah. I offered to compile the feat in a blog because the wiki wasn't working properly for Dust and he couldn't create the blog.
Sorry, dude, I have to rely on you for the fix.
Ultima's realm shit has outright statements and such in the lore viewer so yeah and I mean yeah this kinda thing is overly common in FF literally in like every gameBeen playing this game, absolutely love it. A few scaling questions: are y’all planning on scaling Zettaflare to Mothercrystal Bahamut’s physicals and Ifrit Risen’s normal physicals, if so why, or are y’all just scaling will amped Ifrit Risen’s physicals there? Also, is there any reason to scale Ultima’s attacks and the sort to his realm creation, or are y’all just granting him that charitable interpretation as a baseline assumption?
Oh it has statements that imply his creation feat scales to his physicals or other attacks?Ultima's realm shit has outright statements and such in the lore viewer so yeah and I mean yeah this kinda thing is overly common in FF literally in like every game
Nah not for that, like I said this specifc kind of thing itself the creating a dimension that scales to your power is a staple of FF atp with all the lore that shit has built specifcally for forever but no what I'm talking about is the dimensions creation itself is what we have statements onOh it has statements that imply his creation feat scales to his physicals or other attacks?
yeah its pretty cool shitBro Omega-1 is an insane boss fight
Yeah that's the other justify I mentioned beforeScaling Question: So, Omega just makes the end game AP of the verse 3-A/Low 2-C right? Like he was gonna collapse the universe, and he was a weapon made to fight Ultima.
Not in the Japanese version so non canonScaling Question: So, Omega just makes the end game AP of the verse 3-A/Low 2-C right? Like he was gonna collapse the universe, and he was a weapon made to fight Ultima.
Pretty sure we already talked about this exact argumentNot in the Japanese version so non canon