Fear and Famine (Fear and Hunger Discussion Thread)

[StretchSebe]

Fear and Hunger characters have some amazing endurance/stamina. Just cutting off an arm and going about your day is something else.

Also finally getting through Termina, and yeah. I thought the first game was crazy with stamina/endurance but 2 takes it much further. Even early on, there's that possibility

Spoiler

of your character getting their legs sawed off, and spending what appears to a day crucified without any treatment before being saved by August, and afterwards being able to still continue onwards.

 

[CrackerVolley]

Anyone want me to start making a rough draft for one of the F&H1 playable characters?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

This reminded me that I still haven't finished that Enki page

 

[CrackerVolley]

I'll work on Cahara then

 

[CrackerVolley]

Also, should we be sorting abilities and equipment around the lines of...
What they normally have | What they could have if they managed to somehow grab everything | Magic | Resistances ?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

They really don't have that many resistances, we could probably just list em in the canon and equipment keys

 

[StretchSebe]

Math.

 

[Rutæhh]

 

[Rutæhh]

Miro nerfing physical characters whilst Spice forge is still the same
Nerf spice forge

 

[Stillwinston]

Well I've gone and done a fear and hunger matchup

Crow vs Fish: Crow Mauler vs Hierophant (House of the Dead)

Well this came as a spur of the moment, lets give it a go. Speed is equalised Crow Mauler is in first key Both start 5 metres apart SBA otherwise Terrifying Presence: 0 Sunset Bridge Monster: 0 Incon: 0 https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Crow_Mauler...

vsbattles.com

 

[Fresh_PlayTM]

I'm playing Termina, I haven't finished it yet, but I'm curious to know which level of the characters Termina at its peak?

 

[StretchSebe]

I'm playing Termina, I haven't finished it yet, but I'm curious to know which level of the characters Termina at its peak?

Spoilers but text dump:

• Just for speed the characters should at least have supersonic speed given they can avoid gunfire, and fight characters who can avoid gunfire in battle. Interestingly, Le'garde reappears in Termina and is able to dodge gunfire too, which has interesting implications for the speed of F&H 1 characters.
• Termina cast should also scale from Le'garde physically, with ap + durability feats from the first game ranging from Wall level - Building level.
• I calculated this after seeing it in game. This supports the higher end being a Small Building level feat from a relatively early moonscorched contestant.
• Additionally, the main antagonist Per'kele can call down small meteors, which further supports the higher end of tiering, being Small Building level - Building level.
• Magic and new gods should scale to or above these levels, albeit still relevant to characters who can use and fight against magic and new gods respectively.
• Ascended + gods exist outside the world entirely as transcendent beings: At least Low 1-C from being beyond all timelines/fates in lore (the greater scheme of things).
• On that, the old gods you 'fight' in game are just the traces they left behind in the world. In the first game, they make for a few final or hardmode bosses. Said bosses are 'beatable,' but only in the sense of progression. Characters are far from even remotely doing anything to these traces, or the one ascended god final boss in 1, and the traces and ascended god barely even try. In Termina; the old god Rher is the last to stay in the world, and the main cast 'beat' them to progress. That is: Rher just disengages from the fight out of a lack of interest to continue after a certain point. I'm sure it counts for something to fend off a moon, but the long and short of it is that the old + ascended gods are in a class of their own, and 'scaling' to their traces is at best just characters prolonging a losing battle (and inevitable death) against any of them unless said trace or god loses interest like Rher does.

 

[Tyranno223]

Spoilers but text dump:

• Just for speed the characters should at least have supersonic speed given they can avoid gunfire, and fight characters who can avoid gunfire in battle. Interestingly, Le'garde reappears in Termina and is able to dodge gunfire too, which has interesting implications for the speed of F&H 1 characters.
• Termina cast should also scale from Le'garde physically, with ap + durability feats from the first game ranging from Wall level - Building level.

It's worth noting that Kaiser is capable of one-shotting Termina contestants like Pav and August (the latter being on the stronger side of contestants). They can obviously beat him, so they are comparable, but notably weaker

• On that, the old gods you 'fight' in game are just the traces they left behind in the world. In the first game, they make for a few final or hardmode bosses. Said bosses are 'beatable,' but only in the sense of progression. Characters are far from even remotely doing anything to these traces, or the one ascended god final boss in 1, and the traces and ascended god barely even try. In Termina; the old god Rher is the last to stay in the world, and the main cast 'beat' them to progress. That is: Rher just disengages from the fight out of a lack of interest to continue after a certain point. I'm sure it counts for something to fend off a moon, but the long and short of it is that the old + ascended gods are in a class of their own, and 'scaling' to their traces is at best just characters prolonging a losing battle (and inevitable death) against any of them unless said trace or god loses interest like Rher does.

It's only the traces of Rher. Even Rher has left by Termina (unknown for F&H 1 as he still has some direct servants showing up there).

 

[StretchSebe]

It's worth noting that Kaiser is capable of one-shotting Termina contestants like Pav and August (the latter being on the stronger side of contestants). They can obviously beat him, so they are comparable, but notably weaker

It's only the traces of Rher. Even Rher has left by Termina (unknown for F&H 1 as he still has some direct servants showing up there).

Good addendums

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

must say... bloody CRIMINAL Tanaka has not gotten his profile yet I mean afterall- don't you remember his iconic move? "Briefcase Bash"