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FCOC Wiki's Strongest XII

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Ye uh Phoenix Runihura and Aether should probably tie for 1st Low 2-C and 2-A. The two inconned because Phoenix can not kill Aether permanently, and Aether can not get past his passive abilities.

Phoenix has passive power absorption which can steal all abilities up to High 1-B, passive power null that can reduce High 1-Bs to 10-B, passive Low 2-C spatial collapse, passive Mind, Soul, and Body destruction, passive mind manipulation, passive conceptual death manipulation, passive paralysis, and more...

If someone there somehow manages to avoid all that he has High 1-A thought-based Conceptual Law-Based Erasure, High 1-A type 8 immortality, and more...

Aether has thought-based tier 0 plot hax and is a replaceable avatar of a tier 0. Rather could probably elaborate more on that tho.
 
Why wouldn't avatars be allowed? That's like saying Type 9 as a whole isn't allowed on the list lol.

Isn't that like one of the whole reasons SCP-682 so high on the normal vsbw list? Cause he has a 2-A true form no one can affect and will continually come back as long as that form exist?
 
Phoenks said:
Why wouldn't avatars be allowed? That's like saying Type 9 as a whole isn't allowed on the list lol.

Isn't that like one of the whole reasons SCP-682 so high on the normal vsbw list? Cause he has a 2-A true form no one can affect and will continually come back as long as that form exist?
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I wasn't allowed to put someone on here back in the day cause they were an avatar. maybe the rules have changed since
 
That's weird, they should be allowed. There's nothing in the rules that states having a higher-form isn't allowed.

If there is a rule like that then nobody with type 9 should be here.
 
Samael for Tier 2-A; they have High-Godly Regen and are an Avatar of a beyond baseline Tier 0 entity (though said entity can't actually directly act against non-Tier 0 thing, but have an indirect way to act and they still have Type 9 from said indirect way). They also can utilise and resist Tier 0
Plot Manipulation, Information Manipulation, and Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Mathematics Manipulation, and Conceptual Manipulation (Types 1, 2, 3, and 4), Statistics Amplification, Statistics Reduction, Power Bestowal, Power Modification, Power Nullification, and Resistance Negation, Nigh-Omniscience and Fourth Wall Awareness, Causality Manipulation, Acausality Negation (Type 5), Fate Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Teleportation, Time Travel, Dimensional Travel, Summoning, BFR, and Body Puppetry, Creation, Existence Erasure, Regeneration Negation (High-Godly) and Immortality Negation (All Types), and Subjective Reality, Matter Manipulation, Biological Manipulation, and Transmutation
Through their Avatars being able to use and resist the powers of the Akashic Records.

Also pretty sure theirs plenty of Avatars and Type 9's on the list already.
 
What tier are Samael's hax? Phoenix can null all abilities listed there (Minus Plot Manip) if they aren't High 1-B or above and can negate High Godly.
 
My bad, nvm then. Phoenix should probably get 2nd 2-A then? And Aether should tie with Samael i think
 
How high is Aether in Tier 0, as The Holy Cross Samael has nullifies any inhuman power, and is >>> Higher-Order Beings (Such as Samael's True Form) which is >>> The Akashic Records which are Baseline Tier 0?
 
Alright then disregard what Rather just said... I'll just copy paste what he explained to me on disc here:

well, you can't really reach her with any amount of tier 0 transcendencies of any degree. The world beyond doesn't have an upper limit like that. You can continue transcending within it however much you want. Transcend once, twice, an infinite amount of times. Transcend an infinite amount of infinite transcendencies. Doesn't really matter. You can't reach "the top" from below.
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Then there is the world beyond meaning, which is... hard to explain. It's "kinda" superior. Although it's more so an "existential" superiority, rather than just a simple "muh transcendence"
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Then there is Aether, completely seperated from all of that, almost like she is in a completely different verse all together. There she continuously rises up infinite amounts of narratives, each one "far greater" (Narratives are weird and can't really ne described as >=<, but it still moves her into a "higher existence" of sorts regardless) in difference than anything within the layers
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oh and when I say transcend, I mean like 1-A to H 1-A or H 1-A to 0
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Theirs probably a witty comment about Suggsverse I can make but I can't think of it... So I'm just going to straight out say that is Suggsverse level of unnecessary and NLF.
 
You guys wouldn't like Amaverse I'm guessing.

Still, who's to say that any high tier 0 hierarchy isn't "Suggsverse level of unnecessary and NLF."




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Phoenks said:
You guys wouldn't like Amaverse I'm guessing.

Still, who's to say that any high tier 0 hierarchy isn't "Suggsverse level of unnecessary and NLF."




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I just think Tier 0 smurfs shouldn't be allowed on the site at all, really. Especially not on this list. It turns into a dick-measuring contest every single time.
 
That's how it is for all Smurfs already though. You just see who has the better, higher-tiered, higher-dimensional haxes blah. Dick measuring contest.

Tier 0 is just less obvious because you actually have to look into these extreme hierarchies and cosmologies to see who has the better hax.

Rather's pages are quite well made and obviously not just there to get on this list.
 
Tier 0 is just how much you can word-vomit to justify passively beating everyone else. A needlessly long explanation to justify something that exists for the sole purpose of being strong isn't "Quite well made", it's just a big middle finger to decent storytelling.

Tier 0s? They can work on their own. See the mythos, umineko, etc.

Tier 0 smurfs do not work.
 
That explanation is for this list, and it describes WHY she is strong, it doesn't define the actual character lol.
 
You're right. A good character can be talked about without needing to mention their power/tier/hierarchy.

Let's check Aether's page as an example- Oh hey, it took two sentences to delve into "haha look at her awesome narrative powers and existence she's everything and she creates the narrative and pseudonarrative and-"
 
tbf, Aethers page is bad for 2 reasons. 1. lazy 2. I wanted to wait with spoilery stuff till I progressed further with Hana's page/fixed the mess that is her profile, but that never happened... coz lazy. If you want an example of a decent page I've made, look at Astyana, because a proper Aether page would look something like that. Maybe a bit longer, since every avatar has her own personality, story, motivation, etc.
 
InfiniteDay said:
You can elaborate on why and where they would place. Ill place them in nominees/
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Faye Charlotte seals the competition...

Keys:
9-A / 8-A (Beginning of Series)
7-C / 6-B (Kagari's Rendezvous)
3-C (Kagari Armor)

Notable things all of these keys have:
  • 1-A Sealing (Can seal people, objects, and individual parts of reality. Able to seal stuff that affects her, such as fate and pain. Sealed away pain, her own last name, and fate itself)
  • 1-A Vector Manipulation / 1-A Attack Reflection (Passively inverts the vectors of all attacks targeting her)
  • Paralysis Inducement (Passively reduces the vectors of everything within her range to zero, being able to discriminate what is affected)
  • 1-A Power Nullification (A byproduct of her sealing. Faye can nullify effects, basically seal anything that affects her. Sealed her own sight to nullify the effect of Deimos's 1-A illusion magic)
  • Non-Physical Interaction: Can physically interact with things which are abstract beings.
  • Adept fighter and precognition.
  • Accelerated Development (She gets stronger as time goes by lol. Anything she does results in exponential growth)
Beginning of Series:
  • Relativistic Speed (haha slow brrr)
Kagari's Rendezvous:
  • FTL, eventually Infinite speed with Infinite Fold
  • Immeasurable Perception
Kagari Armor:
  • Irrelevant Speed
  • 1-A Durability negation with a lot of abilities
  • Mid-Godly Regeneration Negation
  • 1-A resistance to void, EE, probability, physics, and absorption
End of Series:
  • EE (The only case where she used her ee, essentially can erase anything within her vector range)
Note: She legit comes from thingverse therefore is stupid. Vector range small lol (A few dozen meters)
 
For 9-A/8-A: Not sure what anybody else can really do here. I encourage arguments, but passive 1-A Vector/Attack Reflection, along with 1-A sealing with a side-effect of 1-A powernull is bad writing, and unable to really be dealt with with a quick-skim of the articles.

For 7-C/6-B: Same as the reasons above.

3-C: Can't speak for Phaedra's level of resistances, but she still should clear.
 
Phaedra's current profile stomps but updated would lose so you can just move her down.
 
Also Vienna Bloodfallen's "Merged with Jack" 9-A and 7-C key canonically stomps Faye via blitzing and immortality so she should probably be tied with her there (from the same verse)
 
Forgot to add but uh, Cliff in his last key is pretty much 6-D GER

The thing can reflect attacks that are 3*∞ (by 6-D Standards), it reflects anything that will affect him that is 6-D and below, including things like EE (There's a dude who literally has EE), Soul Manip (Same thing) ect.
 
Cul0r said:
Forgot to add but uh, Cliff in his last key is pretty much 6-D GER

The thing can reflect attacks that are 3*∞ (by 6-D Standards), it reflects anything that will affect him that is 6-D and below, including things like EE (There's a dude who literally has EE), Soul Manip (Same thing) ect.
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Sounds NLF. So, any single hax not at least 7-D is reflected.
 
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