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Sorry for that i accused you for accusiong me of wanking FT
I also know that HOC is ripoff off Edo Tensei (I wouldn't talk in that topic if i had no knowlede what Edo Tensei is to start with)
Its nowhere stated there is a limit but we can asume it exist but still there are plenty of dead powerfull characters form Naruto.
Addiitonaly while HOC is plot wise chaper than Edo Tensei it can do a lot of things that EDO cannot. First of all how would EDO look like if it needs DNA and preparation (and time to summmon that coffins) while during this fight "The Champion of Naruto" has no acces to , compared to HOC wchich dont require anything excpet magical energy (Neinhart was exhausted from summoning 3 Spriggans but i guess it doesnt matter because of Fairy Heart).
Whats furthermore Edo Tensei has another drawback- summoned characters has to have that kunai with note in back IIRC ( if im wrong tell me).
We are not here to talk about Hiros and Masashis work and ability to create a plot not the apperance of Neinahart but about abilites of characters they (mangakas not Neinhart) have created.
As for Time stop, Dimaria wasnt forced to use it. She was repedeatly using it earlier during the war just to accomplish her deviations. Also that kick wasn't something really damgerous for her, she pacifed Wendy with one spell and almost killed Charla with another later on.
Human Path is an soulsucking ability- Larcade has something identical (so its nothing special in that scenario)
Sword of Totsuka is faster (speed is equalized in that fight however) but smaller Memento Mori (not in terms how they work but in effect "as the way how to kill immortal charcter"). Only reason that you think Totsuka is better is because it actually managed to do something but its not because of power of user or ability but by the fact that Kishimoto is more willing to kill characters than Mashima and it was used by Itachi (who compraed to Mard is much more vital for the plot).
Yata Mirror is something useful but noting more but a forcefield (very good one however) wchich however can be sidestepped (its an shield in shape so it blocks only form one side.
All Rinnegan abilites can be reconstructed by spamming HOC with Nagato memories (He is after all dead).
Same goes for Byakugan (from countless dead Hyugas over decades of existence of clan)
Inazami can be breaked by change of thinking IIRC (wchich is rather easy with self-mind messing Curse of Contradiction), but if its not enough to convince you IT wont be used in that fight (why someone with TSB could do it as the opener)
Inazagi has limit of uses (and i dont know how many times it can be used (Danzo was special example, but im not sure if The chamnpion of Narutoverse has eyes on is arm)
Additionally there is AP exualization here, so noone can overhelm anyone by sheer force . As for volcano argument- fodder from FT survived a volcano. Stepping in sun requires only Multi City Block + durability (temperature part of course)
Additionaly accid cannot do anything to shadows and at least 2 characters in FT can merge with them. Clonning is not exclusive ability of Naruto. Rufus and Eve did it.
Tell me then how Naruto champion can deal with Rufus Lohr ability to create new spells from memory amped by Mavi's Fairy Heart + Mind Reading of Neinhart (It would mean that FT side has acces to everything Naruto Verse has)
How champion of Naruto can defend from : Life Cereation + (anyone in FT history who invented Maguilty Sodom and is dead now- its ancient spell so i guess inventor is dead) +sucide
How can it defed from time stop (foolowed by anyting offensive repetd countlesly/sealing) if speed is equalized. Why u think the champion of FT cannot start with Time stop while champion of Naruto can start with dimmension travel
Why you think Last ages will last only 5 minutes if the magic pool of one person was enough to mainatain 1 minute reversion .
Easy math:
1 person worth of magic power- 1 minute
infinite ammount of magic power- inifinte ammount of time
I said there is multiple ways how to replicated Naruto powers for FT champion.
How the Naruto verse can win vs all powers of Naruto verse combined with powers of FT (which u may consider as crappy manga, u may talk anything wrong about the plot and countless things, that arent perfect there , but you have to admit that it has HAX too (and is vieved by more people than me here as mor hax based verse than Naruto).
I personallly prefer FT than Naruto as both manga and anime, I see it as somehing more enjoable and ineresting , and I've seen Naruto too , and im not talking here in favour of my favourite manga becaule i like it more because i see that in terms of Hax it has an advantage. I know that sterngth/speed vise Naruto is superior and tat is why every time when i see a FT vs Naruto threat i ussualy see Naruto winnnning (unless its spped equalized and there is fight of FT god tiers and Naruto mid/hihg tiers). But if its battle of HAX (strentgh and speed is equalized) FT stand a chance and i also see while the haxes alone in FT are weaker than in Naruto they are much better workign together and can create more interesting effects than haxes combined in Naruto.
In my country there is a night now, so exuse me , i go to sleep. I will response to Yours post later on, Good night.
Sorry for that i accused you for accusiong me of wanking FT
I also know that HOC is ripoff off Edo Tensei (I wouldn't talk in that topic if i had no knowlede what Edo Tensei is to start with)
Its nowhere stated there is a limit but we can asume it exist but still there are plenty of dead powerfull characters form Naruto.
Addiitonaly while HOC is plot wise chaper than Edo Tensei it can do a lot of things that EDO cannot. First of all how would EDO look like if it needs DNA and preparation (and time to summmon that coffins) while during this fight "The Champion of Naruto" has no acces to , compared to HOC wchich dont require anything excpet magical energy (Neinhart was exhausted from summoning 3 Spriggans but i guess it doesnt matter because of Fairy Heart).
Whats furthermore Edo Tensei has another drawback- summoned characters has to have that kunai with note in back IIRC ( if im wrong tell me).
We are not here to talk about Hiros and Masashis work and ability to create a plot not the apperance of Neinahart but about abilites of characters they (mangakas not Neinhart) have created.
As for Time stop, Dimaria wasnt forced to use it. She was repedeatly using it earlier during the war just to accomplish her deviations. Also that kick wasn't something really damgerous for her, she pacifed Wendy with one spell and almost killed Charla with another later on.
Human Path is an soulsucking ability- Larcade has something identical (so its nothing special in that scenario)
Sword of Totsuka is faster (speed is equalized in that fight however) but smaller Memento Mori (not in terms how they work but in effect "as the way how to kill immortal charcter"). Only reason that you think Totsuka is better is because it actually managed to do something but its not because of power of user or ability but by the fact that Kishimoto is more willing to kill characters than Mashima and it was used by Itachi (who compraed to Mard is much more vital for the plot).
Yata Mirror is something useful but noting more but a forcefield (very good one however) wchich however can be sidestepped (its an shield in shape so it blocks only form one side.
All Rinnegan abilites can be reconstructed by spamming HOC with Nagato memories (He is after all dead).
Same goes for Byakugan (from countless dead Hyugas over decades of existence of clan)
Inazami can be breaked by change of thinking IIRC (wchich is rather easy with self-mind messing Curse of Contradiction), but if its not enough to convince you IT wont be used in that fight (why someone with TSB could do it as the opener)
Inazagi has limit of uses (and i dont know how many times it can be used (Danzo was special example, but im not sure if The chamnpion of Narutoverse has eyes on is arm)
Additionally there is AP exualization here, so noone can overhelm anyone by sheer force . As for volcano argument- fodder from FT survived a volcano. Stepping in sun requires only Multi City Block + durability (temperature part of course)
Additionaly accid cannot do anything to shadows and at least 2 characters in FT can merge with them. Clonning is not exclusive ability of Naruto. Rufus and Eve did it.
Tell me then how Naruto champion can deal with Rufus Lohr ability to create new spells from memory amped by Mavi's Fairy Heart + Mind Reading of Neinhart (It would mean that FT side has acces to everything Naruto Verse has)
How champion of Naruto can defend from : Life Cereation + (anyone in FT history who invented Maguilty Sodom and is dead now- its ancient spell so i guess inventor is dead) +sucide
How can it defed from time stop (foolowed by anyting offensive repetd countlesly/sealing) if speed is equalized. Why u think the champion of FT cannot start with Time stop while champion of Naruto can start with dimmension travel
Why you think Last ages will last only 5 minutes if the magic pool of one person was enough to mainatain 1 minute reversion .
Easy math:
1 person worth of magic power- 1 minute
infinite ammount of magic power- inifinte ammount of time
I said there is multiple ways how to replicated Naruto powers for FT champion.
How the Naruto verse can win vs all powers of Naruto verse combined with powers of FT (which u may consider as crappy manga, u may talk anything wrong about the plot and countless things, that arent perfect there , but you have to admit that it has HAX too (and is vieved by more people than me here as mor hax based verse than Naruto).
I personallly prefer FT than Naruto as both manga and anime, I see it as somehing more enjoable and ineresting , and I've seen Naruto too , and im not talking here in favour of my favourite manga becaule i like it more because i see that in terms of Hax it has an advantage. I know that sterngth/speed vise Naruto is superior and tat is why every time when i see a FT vs Naruto threat i ussualy see Naruto winnnning (unless its spped equalized and there is fight of FT god tiers and Naruto mid/hihg tiers). But if its battle of HAX (strentgh and speed is equalized) FT stand a chance and i also see while the haxes alone in FT are weaker than in Naruto they are much better workign together and can create more interesting effects than haxes combined in Naruto.
In my country there is a night now, so exuse me , i go to sleep. I will response to Yours post later on, Good night.
