Fairy Tail: Small Downgrade

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Human Form Acnologia, Black Dragon Slayer Knights, and Human Form Dragon Gods gotta be downgraded again

The upscaling to Baseline 6-B off of upscaling from Igneel's Power+Fire Dragon King Mode Natsu isn't really solid, it's just an assumption we made based on the fact that August and Irene said only Zeref with Fairy Heart stood a chance against Acnologia while looking at his Human Form and then Base Zeref survived and stood standing from an attack from Igneel's Power+Fire Dragon King Mode Natsu, but that isn't really reliable at all

Human Acnologia scared Irene and August and made them believe not even Base Zeref could win, so he still scales above all 3 of them

And a weaker Human Acnologia one-shot Full Power Animus casually while it took Dragonization Natsu many hits to take him down, so this means he scales above Dragonization Natsu as well

This means they basically get a small downgrade to "Low 6-B", not a big deal

I'm tired and sick, so hopefully this goes well

 

[CloverDragon03]

Makes sense, I agree

 

[Damage3245]

Sure. Sounds reasonable.

 

[Eseseso]

Reluctant agree.

 

[Theendzero13]

Yeah seens ok

 

[TheForgottenKing]

Seems fine to me

 

[KingTempest]

Looks solid

 

[LameLiarLeo]

I don't really get the post, it explains the 6-B upscaling and calls it unreliable, which has no reasonable explanation behind why it is believed to be unreliable, after it all there is are a few characters that are massively below human Acno. if i am missing something in said post i'd love to be corrected

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I don't really get the post, it explains the 6-B upscaling and calls it unreliable, which has no reasonable explanation behind why it is believed to be unreliable, after it all there is are a few characters that are massively below human Acno. if i am missing something in said post i'd love to be corrected

There's no real connection between Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu and Human Form Acnologia, so we can't scale Human Form Acnologia to him

 

[LameLiarLeo]

There's no real connection between Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu and Human Form Acnologia, so we can't scale Human Form Acnologia to him

It's in the post, Base Zeref survives hits from Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu, Both Irene and August claim Zeref to be inferior to Acno, He himself is afraid of Acno, Even after gaining FH He believes the only way is to reset the timeline

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

It's in the post, Base Zeref survives hits from Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu, Both Irene and August claim Zeref to be inferior to Acno, He himself is afraid of Acno, Even after gaining FH He believes the only way is to reset the timeline

That doesn't necessarily mean Human Form Acnologia is above Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu

It means he's above Base Zeref, August, and Irene, but not Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu

 

[CloverDragon03]

It's in the post, Base Zeref survives hits from Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu, Both Irene and August claim Zeref to be inferior to Acno, He himself is afraid of Acno, Even after gaining FH He believes the only way is to reset the timeline

Zeref surviving a single hit won't be enough to scale him to Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu, as Igneel's Power Natsu was already overpowering Zeref and a single attack from Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu severely injured him.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Zeref surviving a single hit won't be enough to scale him to Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu, as Igneel's Power Natsu was already overpowering Zeref and a single attack from Igneel's Power+FDKM Natsu severely injured him.

Would this make Zeref's statement about Natsu killing him if Natsu landed one more hit on him using Igneel's Power + FDKM accurate?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Would this make Zeref's statement about Natsu killing him if Natsu landed one more hit on him using Igneel's Power + FDKM accurate?

Yes, very much so

 

[LameLiarLeo]

Would this make Zeref's statement about Natsu killing him if Natsu landed one more hit on him using Igneel's Power + FDKM accurate?

Zeref was gonna be killed because it was the power of the dead, wasn't really a matter of AP

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Zeref was gonna be killed because it was the power of the dead, wasn't really a matter of AP

So anyone who has the "power of the dead" can kill Zeref regardless of their AP then, since you say it isn't a matter of AP.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Zeref was gonna be killed because it was the power of the dead, wasn't really a matter of AP

It being the power of the dead means his immortality is null and void to it but you still need sufficient AP to do so. Otherwise, the first hit would've killed him.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Zeref was gonna be killed because it was the power of the dead, wasn't really a matter of AP

That refers to how the power of the dead would let Natsu kill an immortal cursed by Ankhseram. The fact that it would kill Zeref in two hits kinda goes against the fact that Zeref scales to it in AP.

Anyway, agree with the OP.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Someone mentioned to me that it’s possible that while the Dragon Forms of the Dragon Gods scale above Dragon Form Acnologia, it’s possible that the Human Forms don’t, there’s been confusion about this for a while now, we can always make the Human Forms of the Dragon Gods scaling to Human Form Acnologia as only a “likely” or “possibly”

Thoughts?

 

[TheForgottenKing]

Someone mentioned to me that it’s possible that while the Dragon Forms of the Dragon Gods scale above Dragon Form Acnologia, it’s possible that the Human Forms don’t, there’s been confusion about this for a while now, we can always make the Human Forms of the Dragon Gods scaling to Human Form Acnologia as only a “likely” or “possibly”

Thoughts?

I’m ok with this

 

[CloverDragon03]

Someone mentioned to me that it’s possible that while the Dragon Forms of the Dragon Gods scale above Dragon Form Acnologia, it’s possible that the Human Forms don’t, there’s been confusion about this for a while now, we can always make the Human Forms of the Dragon Gods scaling to Human Form Acnologia as only a “likely” or “possibly”

Thoughts?

Eh, going from human form to dragon form is the exact same transformation so it doesn't really make sense for them not to.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Eh, going from human form to dragon form is the exact same transformation so it doesn't really make sense for them not to.

That's a good point

Well everyone agrees with the downgrade, so I'll apply the changes

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Well I've applied the changes, I will close this now