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Explanation why GER beats Goku

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Nobody's trying to change anything though. Giorno obviously has Age Manipulation, I'm not arguing against that. I'm
That's a significant change because the default is that it affects all kinds of life. Which is why I suggest a CRT
 
it would get literally rejected, chariot wouldn't definitely agrue with it
This has been discussed and accepted before so ... Most likely, Yeah

My main contention is that this is a very unnecessary and completely useless diversion
 
pshycological energy

and i have some stuff reguarding fighting will if you want it too
"It's the physical manifestation of your phychological energy." That's more than you described it to be. But I'll concede on this one because I haven't read every JoJo part yet, and am not too knowledgable on Stands.
can you just stop repeating arguments?

even if it dosen't he have tons of hax that can use
That wasn't an argument. I'm just pointing out that your argument doesn't prove your claim.
 
"It's the physical manifestation of your phychological energy." That's more than you described it to be. But I'll concede on this one because I haven't read every JoJo part yet, and am not too knowledgable on Stands.
I mean, if we talk about natural causes, they can't die until users, and consuquence the phsycological energy dies.

but there wasn't user there so
That wasn't an argument. I'm just pointing out that your argument doesn't prove your claim.
Explain
 
It has already been explained to you ... Look, If you're really interested to know or change the status quo, make a CRT
Giorno being able to age a tree, and a tree and human both having life is all it took? That's suprising.
 
What's really to explain? Giorno being able to age trees and heal all kinds of beings does not prove he could somehow age humans. They're useful abilities for sure.
i mean, then make a CRT. im pretty sure it's currently like that
 
What's really to explain? Giorno being able to age trees and heal all kinds of beings does not prove he could somehow age humans. They're useful abilities for sure.
This is literally pointless. As I said, start a CRT.
 
Giorno being able to age a tree, and a tree and human both having life is all it took? That's suprising.
Insects as well. But there are a couple more steps : both human and tree have life, Giorno has feats of affecting both kinds of life in the same ways in other uses of his power. The fact that he can also explicitly age insects is an added bonus

PS : this is the last clarification from my side. I see no point in arguing over this here
 
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Insects as well. But there are a couple more steps : both human and tree have life, Giorno has feats of affecting both kinds of life in the same ways in other uses of his power. The fact that he can also explicitly age insects is an added bonus

PS : this is the last clarification from my side. I see no point in arguing over this here
Well, Goku has resistance to willpower manipulation, i Wonder if Giorno can nullify his willpower to 0
 
i mean, it's still different type of empatich
Alr, there is only 1 problem left, if we can solve this Giorno beats goku in proven way. Not like someway/somehow. In jojo guide book, stated as "attacker's will and actions", does that mean if opponent does not attack, he cant revert his will and actions?
 
Alr, there is only 1 problem left, if we can solve this Giorno beats goku in proven way. Not like someway/somehow. In jojo guide book, stated as "attacker's will and actions", does that mean if opponent does not attack, he cant revert his will and actions?
man, if we want tbh, he dosen't neither used in canon

willpower is useless here
 
What about MUI which the body can move without him being conscious.
And i don't think Gio can age any human.
Also Gio needs to kill the victim in order to be put in death loop and he have no way of hurting goku who has universal durability even in base form.
 
I've been asked to close this thread on accounts of it being potentially controversial and frankly that's what I got skimming through it.
 
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