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That's a significant change because the default is that it affects all kinds of life. Which is why I suggest a CRT
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Explanation why GER beats Goku
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Where in the series were Stands described as mere emotions that cannot die?
Still doesn't prove that he can age humans...
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pshycological energy
and i have some stuff reguarding fighting will if you want it too
can you just stop repeating arguments?
even if it dosen't he have tons of hax that can use
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Is it? I thought the default is that it can affect what it's shown to be able to affect.
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it would get literally rejected, chariot wouldn't definitely agrue with it
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Life generally means all life, or at least animal-life and plant-life are considered same. That's the default position.
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This has been discussed and accepted before so ... Most likely, Yeah
My main contention is that this is a very unnecessary and completely useless diversion
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"It's the physical manifestation of your phychological energy." That's more than you described it to be. But I'll concede on this one because I haven't read every JoJo part yet, and am not too knowledgable on Stands.
That wasn't an argument. I'm just pointing out that your argument doesn't prove your claim.
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Why was it accepted? On what basis?
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I mean, if we talk about natural causes, they can't die until users, and consuquence the phsycological energy dies.
but there wasn't user there so
Explain
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It has already been explained to you ... Look, If you're really interested to know or change the status quo, make a CRT
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What's really to explain? Giorno being able to age trees and heal all kinds of beings does not prove he could somehow age humans. They're useful abilities for sure.
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Giorno being able to age a tree, and a tree and human both having life is all it took? That's suprising.
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i mean, then make a CRT. im pretty sure it's currently like that
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This is literally pointless. As I said, start a CRT.
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Insects as well. But there are a couple more steps : both human and tree have life, Giorno has feats of affecting both kinds of life in the same ways in other uses of his power. The fact that he can also explicitly age insects is an added bonus
PS : this is the last clarification from my side. I see no point in arguing over this here
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Well, Goku has resistance to willpower manipulation, i Wonder if Giorno can nullify his willpower to 0
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empatich*
and it's different from Gio empatich
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Well, gio s willpower nullifying count as emphatic, so goku cant give a resistance right?
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i mean, it's still different type of empatich
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Alr, there is only 1 problem left, if we can solve this Giorno beats goku in proven way. Not like someway/somehow. In jojo guide book, stated as "attacker's will and actions", does that mean if opponent does not attack, he cant revert his will and actions?
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man, if we want tbh, he dosen't neither used in canon
willpower is useless here
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Unless, we cant explain without somehow/someway.
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GER can null transformations
Braking
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i can respect that but can i have prove?
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GER nulls powers, it's most likely that GER can null temporary transformations.
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yea but is there any text evidence? (god im becoming my teacher)
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I mean like, there isn't, but given that GER can power null abilities it's possible for him to power null transformations.
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What about MUI which the body can move without him being conscious.
And i don't think Gio can age any human.
Also Gio needs to kill the victim in order to be put in death loop and he have no way of hurting goku who has universal durability even in base form.
And i don't think Gio can age any human.
Also Gio needs to kill the victim in order to be put in death loop and he have no way of hurting goku who has universal durability even in base form.
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Get return to zero with our current standards (yes im serious)
You must read the theard and page
Noobody agrued for that
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So most likely a draw?
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i meant was already a draw from the start..
you know why goku and giorno match never got added?
you can't add stomp match
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Stomp on GER's favour as of right now
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