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thechnically speaking it's complicated, but basically it could sense it because he was in a different world or somethingTrish Said he is still alive when diavolo fall the river, she can sense Diavolo 's life energy
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thechnically speaking it's complicated, but basically it could sense it because he was in a different world or somethingTrish Said he is still alive when diavolo fall the river, she can sense Diavolo 's life energy
Only if Trish is close to him, she can sense his life energy.thechnically speaking it's complicated, but basically it could sense it because he was in a different world or something
though diavolo was in another world.Only if Trish is close to him, she can sense his life energy.
But ger beats him like that right? Setting his willpower to 0 (which is rtz ability and much above infinite baseline hax) and touch him directly and use Age Manipulation, right?though diavolo was in another world.
I will just say he can in someway and somehowBut ger beats him like that right? Setting his willpower to 0 (which is rtz ability and much above infinite baseline hax) and touch him directly and use Age Manipulation, right?
He can revert willpower to zero, but stated as attacker's will, like if you don't attack, rtz wont get activated?I will just say he can in someway and somehow
^I don't remember how it's treated, but for what i can tell, return to zero can shock a people or something (notice the moment with diavolo, he was shcocked he couldn't even move)
giorno also have other hax not only it.This ability doesn't work on human beings. Giorno already explained this in volume 1. Whenever GE gives life to human beings they "become out of control." They don't age.
The same link literally shows you that it works on human beings. But apparently GE's life manip is very versatile so we don't know.This ability doesn't work on human beings. Giorno already explained this in volume 1. Whenever GE gives life to human beings they "become out of control." They don't age.
I know he has, but I was specifically addressing the Age Manipulation part. People seem to think he can just age anyone to death when this is not the case; he can't age human beings.giorno also have other hax not only it.
by the way, the age hax is based on the life that it give, it isn't changing ceullular stuff
It works, but not in the way some claim it to work. It merely messes with its opponent's senses. It doesn't age them.The same link literally shows you that it works on human beings. But apparently GE's life manip is very versatile so we don't know.
Read my second statement.It works, but not in the way some claim it to work. It merely messes with its opponent's senses. It doesn't age them.
I read it, but it's not really relevant to my point. My point simply was that GE's Age Manipulation does not work on human beings.Read my second statement.
By injecting life into living things he can force them to grow until they exhaust their life spansI know he has, but I was specifically addressing the Age Manipulation part. People seem to think he can just age anyone to death when this is not the case; he can't age human beings.
The problem is he wasn't using it, life hax of giorno have probably countless application, that's why he dosen't use most of his hax more than one or 2 timesIt works, but not in the way some claim it to work. It merely messes with its opponent's senses. It doesn't age them.
Yeah, and, again, this does not work on human beings. Giorno specifically stated that giving more life to human beings results in them "becoming out of control." Not that it ages them. Nor was it ever shown to age a human being.By injecting life into living things he can force them to grow until they exhaust their life spans
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He was giving a human being life, which, according to your claim, would age [Bruno] to death. Now, claiming that he somehow wasn't using it here, or that it has countless applications that Giorno could just freely control are headcanon claims. That's not really an argument.The problem is he wasn't using it, life hax of giorno have probably countless application, that's why he dosen't use most of his hax more than one or 2 times
Except the ability's versatile? Giorno isn't dumb and he may use some hax if he needs to.He was giving a human being life, which, according to your claim, would age [Bruno] to death. Now, claiming that he somehow wasn't using it here, or that it has countless applications that Giorno could just freely control are headcanon claims. That's not really an argument.
GE's abilities are versatile, sure, but they're also very specific. Claiming he could just use whichever ability against whoever he wants is completely headcanon. It also goes against what's shown and stated within the series.Except the ability's versatile? Giorno isn't dumb and he may use some hax if he needs to.
Except that Giorno's powers work has been shown to work in the same way with all kinds of life. He has also accelerated the life cycles of beetles for example and we don't get the POV of the beetles or the tree to show us how they felt about getting life injected. What happened to Bruno was that his personal time was sped up massively, and he experienced a long duration of time within a fraction of a second. The consciousness going out of control is a function of the consciousness/sentience of the target itself trying to make sense of what's happening and not a property of the life-giving power itself.I know he has, but I was specifically addressing the Age Manipulation part. People seem to think he can just age anyone to death when this is not the case; he can't age human beings.
It works, but not in the way some claim it to work. It merely messes with its opponent's senses. It doesn't age them.
I mean, the "life" isn't a unique thing that do that, no. It can heal, with it can create animals, can create poison etc...Yeah, and, again, this does not work on human beings. Giorno specifically stated that giving more life to human beings results in them "becoming out of control." Not that it ages them. Nor was it ever shown to age a human being.
I mean, the "life" isn't a unique thing that do that, no. It can heal, with it can create animals, can create poison etc...He was giving a human being life, which, according to your claim, would age [Bruno] to death. Now, claiming that he somehow wasn't using it here, or that it has countless applications that Giorno could just freely control are headcanon claims. That's not really an argument.
I mean, the "life" isn't a unique thing that do that, no. It can heal, with it can create animals, can create poison etc...
he dosen't use age hax for them, he did only that time.
Just reread Giorno vs Bruno just to be sure, but GE's ability description literally states that its ability makes the human senses go out of control... How is this even a debate?Except that Giorno's powers work has been shown to work in the same way with all kinds of life. He has also accelerated the life cycles of beetles for example and we don't get the POV of the beetles or the tree to show us how they felt about getting life injected. What happened to Bruno was that his personal time was sped up massively, and he experienced a long duration of time within a fraction of a second. The consciousness going out of control is a function of the consciousness/sentience of the target itself trying to make sense of what's happening and not a property of the life-giving power itself.
It's already stated that GE's ability makes the human senses go out of control, so I'm curious to see what their justification was for it somehow working on humans.IIRC, he won against a version of superman due to it. I thought it didn't work on humans, but it apparently does. I'll try to find that thread.
Why don't you complete your statement ? How exactly did Bruno's "Senses go out of control"? And that's because they go out of control in a very specific and explicit way ... Bruno's personal time literally accelerated so much he thought he'd become way faster than he was.Just reread Giorno vs Bruno just to be sure, but GE's ability description literally states that its ability makes the human senses go out of control... How is this even a debate?
His personal time didn't accelerate, his senses were merely slowed. That's literally explained in the link I sent...Why don't you complete your statement ? How exactly did Bruno's "Senses go out of control"? And that's because they go out of control in a very specific and explicit way ... Bruno's personal time literally accelerated so much he thought he'd become way faster than he was.
Anyway, Giorno has, on panel, sped up the life of both plants and insects, it is a reasonable conclusion to say that he can do the same for humans as well because he can remake human body-parts and heal people i.e. generate the same kind of "life energy" as humans
The anime greatly expands upon the fight so you might wanna check it out. The manga also implies the exact same thing as you can see the punch happening in super slow motion which is supposed to be how Bruno felt it.His personal time didn't accelerate, his senses were merely slowed. That's literally explained in the link I sent...
It's not, because, again, it was specifically stated to work differently on humans. How hard is it to accept that?
why you are taking only an application of life giver? it can even heals on human, and stuff like that.Just reread Giorno vs Bruno just to be sure, but GE's ability description literally states that its ability makes the human senses go out of control... How is this even a debate?
He can heal humans because GE can give life to objects. That's also explained in the link I sent. How's this relevant to my point though?why you are taking only an application of life giver? it can even heals on human, and stuff like that.
Yeah the punches look like they happen in slowmotion because Bruno's senses were slowed. That includes his eyesight. I'll check out the anime though.The anime greatly expands upon the fight so you might wanna check it out. The manga also implies the exact same thing as you can see the punch happening in super slow motion which is supposed to be how Bruno felt it.
His senses were sped up, not slowed. If his senses had slowed, Giorno would have appeared to to blitz him, but to Bruno's consciousness, the exact opposite seemed to be the caseYeah the punches look like they happen in slowmotion because Bruno's senses were slowed.
Man... How would Giorno appear to be blitzing Bruno when his eyesight is SLOWED. Everything around Bruno looked and felt slower, which is why his conciousness thought he had become faster. Please reread their fight.His senses were sped up, not slowed. If his senses had slowed, Giorno would have appeared to to blitz him, but to Bruno's consciousness, the exact opposite seemed to be the case
moreover, that life giver during the day had not worked on the body but on the mind, so it accelerated it. there is in the anime, it is the feat being that has influenced the mind and not the physical body is invalidMan... How would Giorno appear to be blitzing Bruno when his eyesight is SLOWED. Everything around Bruno looked and felt slower, which is why his conciousness thought he had become faster. Please reread their fight.
What are you saying?moreover, that life giver during the day had not worked on the body but on the mind, so it accelerated it. there is in the anime, it is the feat being that has influenced the mind and not the physical body is invalid
When you record slo-mo/super slo-mo footage on your phone is the phone camera recording at a FASTER rate or a SLOWER rate ? Now apply the same logic to Bruno's sensesMan... How would Giorno appear to be blitzing Bruno when his eyesight is SLOWED. Everything around Bruno looked and felt slower, which is why his conciousness thought he had become faster. Please reread their fight.
that basically it affcted mind not bodyWhat are you saying?
Slower. Which proves my point. Everything happened at a normal speed, but because Bruno's senses (eyesight, feeling, hearing etc) were slowed, Giorno's movements looked slower as well. Because everything seemed slower, Bruno's conciousness thought he had become faster. This is LITERALLY how it was explained and shown in the manga. There's no such thing as disagreeing or agreeing here.When you record slo-mo/super slo-mo footage on your phone is the phone camera recording at a FASTER rate or a SLOWER rate ? Now apply the same logic to Bruno's senses
It affected both. The senses were affected, which caused the mind to go out of control.that basically it affcted mind not body