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Explanation why GER beats Goku

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manu_zarri said:
yes it's a ger hax, i didn't say otherwise, im saying it isn't showed in manga/anime and i don't know how vsbw treat it
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Note 4: On regards to the speed of GER's Return to Zero;

  • Stand stats mostly refer to a Stand's general abilities instead of its physicality, hence the JOJO-A-GO!-GO! refers to the board as GER's ability being what can't be compared. This is why specific physical stats are sometimes portrayed as abilities Stands have despite how they only have "one ability"/power each.


  • ((((((((((((Notorious B.I.G. and Made in Heaven don't simply have infinite speed, at least the latter can achieve it under some conditions met while the former can potentially do the same. GER upscales to their maximum speed as Notorious B.I.G. and Made in Heaven's stats portray that as their rank instead their others lesser speeds shown.)))))))))


  • The Return to Zero working within Time Erase doesn't qualify as a feat of infinite speed (See note 4 in the Speed page), but the fact that it did so despite only Diavolo being able to act there supports the idea of GER's ability having a superiority over that of other Stands.
What about this one?
 
manu_zarri said:
what
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Notorious B.I.G. and Made in Heaven don't simply have infinite speed, at least the latter can achieve it under some conditions met while the former can potentially do the same. GER upscales to their maximum speed as Notorious B.I.G. and Made in Heaven's stats portray that as their rank instead their others lesser speeds shown.
 
HyperboleManipulation said:
Notorious B.I.G. and Made in Heaven don't simply have infinite speed, at least the latter can achieve it under some conditions met while the former can potentially do the same. GER upscales to their maximum speed as Notorious B.I.G. and Made in Heaven's stats portray that as their rank instead their others lesser speeds shown.
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both peak is infinite for whate we know.

and with this? what's the point?
 
HyperboleManipulation said:
It says ger upscales his speed as notorious big and mih's
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ye, and that's why you should read that other note:

  • Stand stats mostly refer to a Stand's general abilities instead of its physicality, hence the JOJO-A-GO!-GO! refers to the board as GER's ability being what can't be compared. This is why specific physical stats are sometimes portrayed as abilities Stands have despite how they only have "one ability"/power each.

it can be reasonable or not, but whatever that's how vsbw treated it, not my fault. you are free to make a CRT btw
 
manu_zarri said:
ye, and that's why you should read that other note:

  • Stand stats mostly refer to a Stand's general abilities instead of its physicality, hence the JOJO-A-GO!-GO! refers to the board as GER's ability being what can't be compared. This is why specific physical stats are sometimes portrayed as abilities Stands have despite how they only have "one ability"/power each.

it can be reasonable or not, but whatever that's how vsbw treated it, not my fault. you are free to make a CRT btw
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I didnt get
manu_zarri said:
ye, and that's why you should read that other note:

  • Stand stats mostly refer to a Stand's general abilities instead of its physicality, hence the JOJO-A-GO!-GO! refers to the board as GER's ability being what can't be compared. This is why specific physical stats are sometimes portrayed as abilities Stands have despite how they only have "one ability"/power each.

it can be reasonable or not, but whatever that's how vsbw treated it, not my fault. you are free to make a CRT btw
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Well i didnt get why this text debunk inf speed?
 
manu_zarri said:
yes, it would be definitely better than a versur theard, since here the debate is GER speed mostly
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So, looks like ger can't win without playing fair. Like he can deceive Goku and touch easily. But that doesnt count right? Since we cant know if goku will fall for that
 
HyperboleManipulation said:
So, looks like ger can't win without playing fair. Like he can deceive Goku and touch easily. But that doesnt count right? Since we cant know if goku will fall for that
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though, one of jojo's bizarre adventures strong point aside hax is inteligence, giorno in-character use strategy, so he can do one of much things that did in the series.
 
manu_zarri said:
though, one of jojo's bizarre adventures strong point aside hax is inteligence, giorno in-character use strategy, so he can do one of much things that did in the series.
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If he can deceive Goku and touch him, he takes the duel. But since we can't prove if Goku will fall for that, seems inconclusive. Maybe something with Emphatic Manipulation, but Goku has resistance. Not sure if it will affect
 
HyperboleManipulation said:
If he can deceive Goku and touch him, he takes the duel. But since we can't prove if Goku will fall for that, seems inconclusive. Maybe something with Emphatic Manipulation, but Goku has resistance. Not sure if it will affect
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the return to zero effect, that i mentioned before, can be also an advantage
 
Havok said:
So if you touched him you get aged? And it's always on . Because if the speed is big Goku can speed blitz before he can think.
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and get returned to zero, because return to zero speed is Unquantificable times above infinite
 
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