Existence Erasure Question

[YungManzi]

So for the Tsuki ga Michibiku verse, there is a character named Tomoe Misumi who has an ability which produces essentially the same effect as EE. She can turn her opponents into illusions therefore making them no longer exist within reality.

My question is, will conventional resistance to Existence Erasure protect against this, and will someone gain resistance to EE via resisting this?

 

[Antoniofer]

Not quite, as the affected character is still "alive". The most generic wsy to qualify the power is Subjetive Reality, that is like manipulating the boundary between what is real and unreal.

 

[YungManzi]

@Antoniofer

Actually, Tomoe's power makes them fade away as illusions. So they wouldn't exist for long (even as an illusion) after being turned into an illusion.

 

[Antoniofer]

I see. Welp, attack seems Illusion based, and although it still have Nonexistance as main effect, defenses that counter illusions may work, but I do not appreciate a conventional defense (assuming that the target fade aways over time into real nonexistance).

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

it seems like amix of reality and void manipulation

 

[The_Smashor]

Reminds me of All Fiction from Medaka Box.

 

[YungManzi]

Hmm...Interesting...I guess it is somewhat similar to all fiction, although it's source and application is far more specific.

So what kind of resistance is needed to resist AF Erasure?

 

[Antoniofer]

Eh, I wouldn't compare it to All Fiction. Anyway, here's the power your looking for: Illusion Transformation/Transmutation (In fact, your character is listed as user), so you can have an idea of the nature of the power.

 

[YungManzi]

You're right, but that's powerlisting wiki. I'm asking how we should treat it on VBW as it pertains to battles and the powers/abilities section.

I don't believe simply having resistence to Illusion creation or transmutation would protect from Pure Reality Illusion; so I'm asking other what they think.

 

[Antoniofer]

That's just so you can undestand the nature of the power (in theory, is the same in this wiki).

Naturaly, someone that do not exist/is unreal wouldn't be affected by it; someone that can (somehow) interact with illusions would be able to defend from it, but as the page as said, there's no specific resistance to it, there's no much powers that counter Subjetive Reality.

 

[YungManzi]

Hmm...makes sense.

 

[Wokistan]

Does it have the effect of erasing them? Then yeah its EE.

If not, from the description it seems sorta like some sort of forced intangibility, almost.

 

[YungManzi]

@Woki

My question was more-so if conventional resistance to EE would protect from it, despite it not being conventional at all.

It does have an effect of erasing them, but it erases them via the illusion (Former Opponent) dissapearing on its own. No longer existing as an illusion or within reality.

Edit:

Bump by the way...

 

[YungManzi]

Bump.

 

[Wokistan]

I think resisting EE would resist the erasure part, but not resist being turned into a illusion.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So it would require transmutation resistance and EE resistance?

 

[Wokistan]

I think the easiest way I can explain this is by equating it to something in a verse I know that seems really similar, Dismiss into Dream.

I would think that the EE resistance would resist the sacrifice part (EE) but not the state change to being an illusion so if that's otherwise relevant it stays that way. However, resisting being turned illusory would stop the EE effect because it's tied to that.

 

[HierophantDeluxe]

Sounds like being turned into an illusion is transmutation of some form, no? Would a character with immunity to transmutation be unaffected?

 

[YungManzi]

@Hierophant

Thing is, would resistance to being turned into stone of an animal grant resistance to being turned into an illusion?

I don't know about that, considering the fact that illusions are more abstract transmutation rather than physical.