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Black is such a pragmatic guy he never used his planet-busting powers to get rid of all the Ningens.
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Evil Superman vs. Evil Goku
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Fair enough but it dosen't matter too much to my argument that prime far from always goes for plot punches and if anything it's just as likely for black to just scythe him and if that misses swarm him with clones, personally I vote Black 6/10 times.
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It seems to be that all of Prime's Retcon Punches happen when he has something to actually it. The dimesonal walls of New Earth and the Phantom Zone window.
The thing with the Time Trapper could just be a Paradox. The timeline was a mess during all that. They literally had 3 different Legions of Superheroes.
The thing with the Time Trapper could just be a Paradox. The timeline was a mess during all that. They literally had 3 different Legions of Superheroes.
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By that logic, Black won't do that either, because he never once used his scythe on an actual opponent.
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>Scythe?
It has nothing special. If it is about slicing space then Prime is far better at doing that and he doesn't need special weapons to do it.
It has nothing special. If it is about slicing space then Prime is far better at doing that and he doesn't need special weapons to do it.
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Well to be honest him not killing all the binges with homing attacks is kinda just PIS or sadism, he's been pretty to the point with every serious fighter he's met (not counting the manga) pretty much trying to get them down off the bat and taking cheap shots whenever it's available
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Also, I'm pretty sure Prime has Resistance to Space-Time Manipulation that is far superior to that of Black's.
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It is sadism. He slowly chased Trunks and Mai and shot people one by one.
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So the notes:
SBP doesn't always reality punch someone, but when he does, wew
SBP also uses said punches under certain conditions (questionable in-character)
Above Baseline 3-A (unknown)
Black put his foot in SSB Vegeta's stomach in base
This is after the U6 Arc, so SSB Goku is at least 10x stronger since then, since he could fight and stalemate Hit
Vegeta and Goku both got stronger via healing, rage boosts, training in the HBTC
Black got stomped by the beforementioned Vegeta and got strong enough to stomp both Goku and Vegeta again
Is likely to go for the beatdown every time (annihilated team Goku on every occurence, attempted to prevent their escape by blowing up the time machine)
Massive AP advantage ( Baseline < SSG < SSB < SSB KKx10 < Improved SSB via training and battles ) Dare I say he one-shots?
No resistance to plot manip
SBP doesn't always reality punch someone, but when he does, wew
SBP also uses said punches under certain conditions (questionable in-character)
Above Baseline 3-A (unknown)
Black put his foot in SSB Vegeta's stomach in base
This is after the U6 Arc, so SSB Goku is at least 10x stronger since then, since he could fight and stalemate Hit
Vegeta and Goku both got stronger via healing, rage boosts, training in the HBTC
Black got stomped by the beforementioned Vegeta and got strong enough to stomp both Goku and Vegeta again
Is likely to go for the beatdown every time (annihilated team Goku on every occurence, attempted to prevent their escape by blowing up the time machine)
Massive AP advantage ( Baseline < SSG < SSB < SSB KKx10 < Improved SSB via training and battles ) Dare I say he one-shots?
No resistance to plot manip
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Well prime isn't resistant to the space time attacks so it'd atleast do significant damage and even if that dosen't finish him there's still the constant spewing of regenerating clones.
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SBP isn't baseline 3-A, his universe destroying feat / him tanking a universe's destruction happened when he was really low on power.
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Most people here know nothing about SBP tbh.
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-Adds unquantifiably above 3-A-
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What's the overall tally by the way? Kinda lost count
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Most people are agreeing Prime wins.
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Most people still think Black wins because only a few doods have seen your post as of now
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So, would this be case of who uses their hax first and more often?
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Stomps?
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I would agree with Rice. Also for the fact that SBP was knocked out by just a universe busting explosion from Monarch. Black can casually put out attacks like that easily. So literally on the first hit, SBP will be knocked out and Black can just defeat him from then on. It really seems like a stomp.
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So its not a stomp, as you've said before, but a win?Matthew Schroeder said:
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Monarch isn't baseline 3-A either. I dare say Superboy Prime is stronger due to feats like replicating the big bang, being above baseline-universal even when vastly weakened.
Also the Plot Manipulation and Space-Time hax that tear Black apart.
Superboy Prime: Me, TheHadouCyberspaceWitch, Therefir, Kepekley23, The real cal howard and some others I think.
Also the Plot Manipulation and Space-Time hax that tear Black apart.
Superboy Prime: Me, TheHadouCyberspaceWitch, Therefir, Kepekley23, The real cal howard and some others I think.
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Again: No one in Dragon Ball has a counter to Plot Manipulation on this level.Matthew Schroeder said:
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I don't think cal voted he just forgot about the retcon punches, also what's blacks tally
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SpeedforceDMUA said:
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Good old bart
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"How did [Insert OP villain here] ever lose despite having [Insert OP power here]"DMUA said:
But seriously.
He doesn't want to erase people most of the time, specially since he is fighting his own childhood heroes, and a lot of his motivation is trying to fix the comic universe since he's a spoiled brat who can't not have it his way.
But against someone he has no emotional attachment to, and on a fight to the death? Yeah he will erase it.
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So it's a stomp (ponders)
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Maybe hit would be better?
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He could very well do that but also wouldn't it be more in character for him to just punch black out regularly at least at first? I mean as a fighter he can't sense power and he's pretty much been able to punch through everything else normally, like the anti-monitor
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Stop describing Digimon, Matt ovo
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Either way if he lasts long enough he'll do black in I guess (still will no one acknowledge the clones? Or the space time cutting which prime has no resistance to?)
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>No resistance to
>He can do it easily and survives his own punches
>Even people like normal Superman can distort Space-time by punching which he stomps
>He can do it easily and survives his own punches
>Even people like normal Superman can distort Space-time by punching which he stomps
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Alright so we can close this then.
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