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Do they distort space and time?The Prince of Counters said:
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No, and they don't destroy the planet either.
As much as I adore High 4C infamous, not only are those outliers they're also not legit.
As much as I adore High 4C infamous, not only are those outliers they're also not legit.
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>Yes, and I would understand that if we were trying to scale people who aren't treated as that much stronger than each other. But it is not the same situation when you're talking about a God Tier. There is not a mathematical difference between a God Tier and the second highest tier
Yes but you don't seem to quite understand that the verse we're talking about here is Fairy Tail, not a super verse like Masada or even Dragon ball. Even then they have mutiple feats and statements to support their tier. Here we're discussing the fact that FT gaining a tier 5 feat would be outrageous due to having no feats even near that level. Also could you please drop it with the false Equivalencies? It's rather annoying to see you brining up silly arguments such as verses going from low 2-C - High 1-C whenever most of said verses do an excellent job at setting up the power scaling system. Fairy Tail on the other hand isn't. And yes, that's quite literally how outliers work. Being a god tier in a verse that has no feats on that level and that isn't in a set higher D setting then yeah, it's certainly an outlier.
Yes but you don't seem to quite understand that the verse we're talking about here is Fairy Tail, not a super verse like Masada or even Dragon ball. Even then they have mutiple feats and statements to support their tier. Here we're discussing the fact that FT gaining a tier 5 feat would be outrageous due to having no feats even near that level. Also could you please drop it with the false Equivalencies? It's rather annoying to see you brining up silly arguments such as verses going from low 2-C - High 1-C whenever most of said verses do an excellent job at setting up the power scaling system. Fairy Tail on the other hand isn't. And yes, that's quite literally how outliers work. Being a god tier in a verse that has no feats on that level and that isn't in a set higher D setting then yeah, it's certainly an outlier.
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His Black holes suck in everything, sucks in light, compresses and if we use his statement of it being able to produce infinite gravity then yeah, they'd be legit. It still has a lot more proof of it being more like a black hole than Stings White Magic being Light by a long shot. False Equivalency on your part.
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It isn't a False Equivalency lol, not when neither of them are accepted as being real.The Prince of Counters said:
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Funny how this debate about Teach's bh started just with a hypothetical scenario.
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You countered by comparing Teach's stuff to Stings stuff. Sting doesn't even use light and is objectively more incorrect than Teachs stuff. Both are wrong yes but one of them meets more than a few of the criteria while the other doesn't even meet one.
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"And yes, that's quite literally how outliers work."The Prince of Counters said:
"An Outlier is an event or incident that is considered to be completely and irreconcilably inconsistent with a character, entity, group, or series' normal displayed level of power."
It's literally not. You see how it says inconsistent? For a God Tier with no feats, there is no inconsistencies because they have no other feats.
"Yes but you don't seem to quite understand that the verse we're talking about here is Fairy Tail, not a super verse like Masada or even Dragon ball"
You don't understand that outliers don't stop because outliers because the gap gets bigger. You make it sound like because the gap between DB low tiers and DB God Tiers is higher than the gap between FT God Tiers and FT low tiers, it isn't an outlier.
"It's rather annoying to see you brining up silly arguments such as verses going from low 2-C - High 1-C whenever most of said verses do an excellent job at setting up the power scaling system."
It's really not that confusing. Irene says Zeref is much stronger than her. Zeref says that Acnologia would be able to play around with him like he is a doll and he would not be able to do anything. Therefore Acnologia > Zeref > Irene.
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Then it isn't a false comparison. The comparison was that they both weren't real. I wasn't trying to make a 1:1 ratio of how many of the standards for black hole and real light they missed.The Prince of Counters said:
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>It's literally not. You see how it says inconsistent? For a God Tier with no feats, there is no inconsistencies because they have no other feats.
Funny that you mention that because Acnologia has two feats, the Tenrou island feat and his Eternal Flare. Neither of which ever gets close to tier 5. And youre still stuck on the God Tier argument, i suppose you think if Acnologia suddenly pulled out a 2-A feat you'd still argue that it's legit? Because from what I'm seeing from you i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. It's inconsistent with the established power level of the verse in general, in Fairy Tail as a whole theres nothing that even remotely comes close to tier 5. Not to mention Etherion isn't even a god tier.
>You don't understand that outliers don't stop because outliers because the gap gets bigger. You make it sound like because the gap between DB low tiers and DB God Tiers is higher than the gap between FT God Tiers and FT low tiers, it isn't an outlier.
.... um.... you do realize the gap between DB god tiers and low tiers is infinite correct? I'm sorry but this really isn't a good arguement on your part. The gap between DB god tiers and DB Low tiers is quite literally infinitely bigger than the gap between Erza and Acnologia. This is a stupid argument if I'm to be honest.
>It's really not that confusing. Irene says Zeref is much stronger than her. Zeref says that Acnologia would be able to play around with him like he is a doll and he would not be able to do anything. Therefore Acnologia > Zeref > Irene
Welp, there we go. Irene said Zeref is stronger than her so lets assume that Zeref is now magically thousands upon thousands of times stronger than her and Acnologia is thousands upon thousands of times stronger than Zeref. This isnt a good arguement either.
Funny that you mention that because Acnologia has two feats, the Tenrou island feat and his Eternal Flare. Neither of which ever gets close to tier 5. And youre still stuck on the God Tier argument, i suppose you think if Acnologia suddenly pulled out a 2-A feat you'd still argue that it's legit? Because from what I'm seeing from you i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. It's inconsistent with the established power level of the verse in general, in Fairy Tail as a whole theres nothing that even remotely comes close to tier 5. Not to mention Etherion isn't even a god tier.
>You don't understand that outliers don't stop because outliers because the gap gets bigger. You make it sound like because the gap between DB low tiers and DB God Tiers is higher than the gap between FT God Tiers and FT low tiers, it isn't an outlier.
.... um.... you do realize the gap between DB god tiers and low tiers is infinite correct? I'm sorry but this really isn't a good arguement on your part. The gap between DB god tiers and DB Low tiers is quite literally infinitely bigger than the gap between Erza and Acnologia. This is a stupid argument if I'm to be honest.
>It's really not that confusing. Irene says Zeref is much stronger than her. Zeref says that Acnologia would be able to play around with him like he is a doll and he would not be able to do anything. Therefore Acnologia > Zeref > Irene
Welp, there we go. Irene said Zeref is stronger than her so lets assume that Zeref is now magically thousands upon thousands of times stronger than her and Acnologia is thousands upon thousands of times stronger than Zeref. This isnt a good arguement either.
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Anyway I'm not gonna sit here and waste my time arguing with an advent Fairy Tail supporter over a hypothetical feat that isn't even legit to begin with. Seen enough for one night.
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"It's inconsistent with the established power level of the verse in general, in Fairy Tail as a whole theres nothing that even remotely comes close to tier 5."
Where do you think feats come from?
Until someone did a 7-A feat, there were no 7-A feats in Fairy Tail. Stop acting like there had to have been tier 5 characters established from the beginning of the series for it to occur at the end of the story.
"Funny that you mention that because Acnologia has two feats, the Tenrou island feat and his Eternal Flare. Neither of which ever gets close to tier 5."
Eternal Flare didn't have a calc last time I checked and the Tenrou island feat was calc'd at 7-B which is much lower than several of the calcs from the people that he fodderizes so I don't know where you're trying to go with this.
" And youre still stuck on the God Tier argument, i suppose you think if Acnologia suddenly pulled out a 2-A feat you'd still argue that it's legit?"
>Suddenly
You're making it sound like Etherion came out of nowhere. This is a false comparison.
" um.... you do realize the gap between DB god tiers and low tiers is infinite correct? I'm sorry but this really isn't a good arguement on your part. The gap between DB god tiers and DB Low tiers is quite literally infinitely bigger than the gap between Erza and Acnologia. This is a stupid argument if I'm to be honest. "
Yes. You're saying going from 5-B to Low 2-C is not an outlier but going from Low 6-B to tier 5 is. I think it's dumb too.
"Welp, there we go. Irene said Zeref is stronger than her so lets assume that Zeref is now magically thousands upon thousands of times stronger than her and Acnologia is thousands upon thousands of times stronger than Zeref. This isnt a good arguement either."
No need for magic or an assumption. There's a calc.
"Not to mention Etherion isn't even a god tier."
Do you have context behind this series? Etherion was the strongest weapon in the verse until the Rosat and SBT dimension were revealed.
Where do you think feats come from?
Until someone did a 7-A feat, there were no 7-A feats in Fairy Tail. Stop acting like there had to have been tier 5 characters established from the beginning of the series for it to occur at the end of the story.
"Funny that you mention that because Acnologia has two feats, the Tenrou island feat and his Eternal Flare. Neither of which ever gets close to tier 5."
Eternal Flare didn't have a calc last time I checked and the Tenrou island feat was calc'd at 7-B which is much lower than several of the calcs from the people that he fodderizes so I don't know where you're trying to go with this.
" And youre still stuck on the God Tier argument, i suppose you think if Acnologia suddenly pulled out a 2-A feat you'd still argue that it's legit?"
>Suddenly
You're making it sound like Etherion came out of nowhere. This is a false comparison.
" um.... you do realize the gap between DB god tiers and low tiers is infinite correct? I'm sorry but this really isn't a good arguement on your part. The gap between DB god tiers and DB Low tiers is quite literally infinitely bigger than the gap between Erza and Acnologia. This is a stupid argument if I'm to be honest. "
Yes. You're saying going from 5-B to Low 2-C is not an outlier but going from Low 6-B to tier 5 is. I think it's dumb too.
"Welp, there we go. Irene said Zeref is stronger than her so lets assume that Zeref is now magically thousands upon thousands of times stronger than her and Acnologia is thousands upon thousands of times stronger than Zeref. This isnt a good arguement either."
No need for magic or an assumption. There's a calc.
"Not to mention Etherion isn't even a god tier."
Do you have context behind this series? Etherion was the strongest weapon in the verse until the Rosat and SBT dimension were revealed.
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The Prince of Counters said:
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Like i said, I'm not gonna sit here and argue with some very supportive Fairy Tail fan over a hypothetical feat. Lol imagine thinking tier 5 FT is legit. Boy, this is almost Rax levels of Fairy Tail wank.
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You're being unnecessarily toxic, saying "very supportive Fairy Tail fan" and calling it wank instead of arguing the points. You don't see me calling you a "Fairy Tail downplayer" or saying that you're just ad homineming me cause you don't like FT.
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I don't even know what Rax is.
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I don't even know what Rax is.
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> Toxic
> Fairy Tail fan defending tier 5 FT with their life
Hmmmmmm okay. Gonna stop right here before I hurt some feelings and get in trouble.
> Fairy Tail fan defending tier 5 FT with their life
Hmmmmmm okay. Gonna stop right here before I hurt some feelings and get in trouble.
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This is just proving my point lol. You're not hurting my feelings, I'm just saying that you can debate something without insulting the other person.
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@The Prince of Counters
>arguing what is and isn't an outlier in a verse is toxic
sure
>arguing what is and isn't an outlier in a verse is toxic
sure
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