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Esdeath vs. Erza Scarlet

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I can't hold this anymore. The fight takes place in the Empire's palace grounds. Will Esdeath claw another win to improve her win to loss ratio? Or will Erza continue her versus thread domination?

General Melons: 3

Fairy Queen/Titania:

Inconclusive: 5

Both are in their 7-B versions. Speed is equalized. Who wins?
 
How exactly is this a fair match-up? Esdeath uses time stop and she wins,there really isn't a thing Erza can do... Seriously burning.
 
Esdeath via hax. Unless Erza has an armor that let's her resist Esdeath's time freeze.

However, it could be possible for Erza as Esdeath likes to drag out battles because of her sadism. In that time, Erza might be able to overcome her. Erza also won't be bothered too much by any pain Esdeath will attempt to inflict on her as Erza was able to tank a meteor after having every bone in her body broken (please kill me -_-).

Still, Esdeath is a lot more intelligent and has heat and fire resistance so Erza's Flame Empress armor won't do much which would probably be her go-to with an ice opponent.

After that rant, I am still going to go with Esdeath. Erza doesn't have an armor that can defeat Esdeath before she pulls her trump card. Esdeath, with her skill, power and intelligence, can counter pretty much anything Erza throws at her.
 
Intelligence and skill are highly debatable topics. I don't think Esdeath has an advantage in either of those, especially a "big" one as you put it.

Countering Flame Empress Armor means nothing since Erza has a lot of other armors and she won't have any problems breaking through the ice with physical strength or with her weapons.

The battle is pretty much equal in terms of strength, skill, and experience, although Erza has a very slight advantage in versatility. She also has

Given Esdeath's toyful nature, she'll likely prolong the fight as much as possible to make Erza suffer. This behaviour may be just what Erza needs to finish the fight before she pulls out Mahapadma, and given Erza's many armors, it's likely some of them will catch Esdeath by surprise.

She will only pull out Mahapadma in her life is threatened and depending on the situation, the time stop may or may not be the end of Erza.

I'm leaning towards inconclusive for now.
 
ScarletFirefly said:
Intelligence and skill are highly debatable topics. I don't think Esdeath has an advantage in either of those, especially a "big" one as you put it.
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I say intelligence and skill because Esdeath is actually in the military and, not just that, frequently out-maneuvers a group of highly trained assassains. Erza usually wins via bad writing. I haven't seen much of her intelligence since way back in the Midnight fight. After that, Erza just spams her Japanese Cloth armor which has no defensive advantages (nobody should drop all defense in exchange for offense unless they are truly desperate, it's beyond foolish). If Erza does that in battle, Esdeath is sure to take advantage of it as soon as she realizes Erza's defense had gone down.
 
WilliamShadow said:
How exactly is this a fair match-up? Esdeath uses time stop and she wins,there really isn't a thing Erza can do... Seriously burning.
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Yeah, I thought about that but Esdeath isn't going to use Mahapadma off the bat, so Erza has a good chance before that. Also, if Luffy vs Esdeath wasn't a stomp, I doubt this one will be.
 
Being a military leader doesn't make you a better duelist, especially since the Rebel Army arre mostly fodder that Esdeath can dispatch with utmost ease.

Just the fact that Erza can use several weapons effectively speaks volumes of her skills. And she figured out Ajeel's weaknesses and capitalized on them.

Burning Full Fingers said:
Also, if Luffy vs Esdeath wasn't a stomp, I doubt this one will be.
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Luffy has precog though.
 
By that logic burning I can only go with inconclusive for now since both can win...

@vidia let's no got by Esdeath is smarter please, Erza fought 100 monsters and figured out their weakness in mere seconds and against nightmare was able to figure and counter all 3 weakness his ability had which even his teammates had no idea about and someone like Jellal who back than superior to Erza couldn't figure out and when we talk about fire resistance it means nothing since Erza would use that like ones and it would end there and by that logic we can just say Erza uses Nakagmi armor and ignoring durabilty she wins...
 
Of course both of them can win. If we go with that, any match where both combatants have a good chance of winning will end up inconclusive. It's just a question of who's more likely to win. Though the winner will be based on others' perspectives. As usual.
 
Problem with this match is Esdeath has nothing against Nakagami armor(and is disadvantaged because of Erza's versitalty )and Erza has nothing against time stop so, basically we assume who is going to use their "trump card" first. Which to be honest is impossible.
 
Esdeath because i belive if she feels pressured by Erza, which is likely due to Erza's versatility and knack for figuring out weaknesses, she will use mahapadama; Esdeath is a ****** but she isn't stupid.
 
Inconclusive imo. As William said, the one who uses the trump card first wins, but neither of them starts with it so it's difficult to determine
 
Esdeath via more hax and the fact that she knows every single weak spot in the human body would allow her even to strike Erza, rendering her immobile even with her armor on.
 
The moment Erza is about to strike her, mahapadma and she loses.

Esdeath for reasons above.
 
Gargoyle One said:
The moment Erza is about to strike her, mahapadma and she loses.
Esdeath for reasons above.
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Her trump card can be avoided by having a possible resistance to the cold (As Tatsumi's new Incursio showed in the manga, when his teigu evolved). Using Mahapadma drains Esdeath and she can only use it once a day, She requires a great deal of prep time to summon her Ice Cavalry in large numbers. Esdeath is a ****** to the core and will drag out a fight she's enjoying to savor it, which can distract her from her objective and keep her from finishing her foe off immediately.

Mahapadma is a last resort.
 
1. Erza has no counter to it so Esdeath being drained doesn't matter when she's dead.

2. Erza has no counter

3. Esdeath has Not. Even. Once. Refuse to use Mahapadma when she wasn't in immediate danger.

About to be trapped by Su and Najenda? Mahapadma. About to be struck by Mine's sniper shot? Mahapadma. Erza getting any one of her attacks and their about to hit? Mahapadma.
 
1) Never said she had a counter. Don't put words in my mouth.

2) Why are you uselessly repeating yourself.

3) Chill out first of all. Secondly, how would she know she was in immediate danger when this is Erza's first attack. She would consider it a normal sword fight and in character fight normally.

Show us sources of her using Mahapadma right at the start of battle as it has been established in multiple fights that it is a last resort.
 
Oh, we have enough votes, unless the three vote rule applies to inconclusive votes which it might.
 
Even if it's a last resort, and i agree with you on it, The last line that Gargoyle said proves the fact that it's a last resort, That doesn't deny the fact that she can use it to effectively kill Erza with a stab in the heart.

Absolutely. Pretty. VERY VERY. Simple.
 
"That doesn't deny the fact that she can use it to effectively kill Erza with a stab in the heart.

Absolutely. Pretty. VERY VERY. Simple."

This is implying I said that it wouldn't she couldn't kill Erza. Something I never said.
 
"Her Trump Card can be avoided by having a possible resistance to cold" The first line you said when you replied to me

1) Already pointed it out.

2) It doesn't mean anything that it drains her because Erza is still in frozen time with Esdeath about to stab her.

3) Because I'm generally annoyed by the amount of people who don't read AGK who assume that Esdeath wouldn't time stop in immediate danger.

4) I never said she time stops in the beginning of a fight.
 
"Her Trump Card can be avoided by having a possible resistance to cold" The first line you said when you replied to me"

Because I copy and pasted directly from the page? I literally bolded the part I mostly wanted to take notice of.

1) Pointed what out?

2) Never said that couldn't happen, the point of me copy and pasting that portion is to say that it is a trump card, nothing more.

3) Well too bad. That's the nature of vs battles. You cannot expect everyone to watch AGK. We go by what we see on the pages and what we see on fights. You don't see me getting all pissy when someone doesn't know anything about Digimon do you? And I never said she wouldn't do so. I never even implied it. So there was no excuse for you to get pissy with me.

4) Okay then.

 
I think your fingers hurt you right now. Not from typing, but from saying your opinions to the extent that i feel that your about to explode at any moment.

@Gargyole: Thanks for agreeing on my point! XD
 
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