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Endou Kousuke (Arifureta) vs Janus (Nightmares of Alamir) - Battle For 3rd Strongest 8-B (Non-Smurf)

Noneless21 said:
aren't there a match between Kousuke and Isaac?
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I mean, Isaac side didn't answered anymore after the post explaining Kousuke things (specially his basically nonexistent presence), additionally Isaac was challenging Kousuke for his spot but nothing really stop Kousuke from challenge the next spot after him.
 
Zaratthustra is one of the supporters of the verse and since he is active in the strongest list I suppose he will notice the match soon.
 
I prefer if the other side begin first because I will like to hear Janus abilities explained, specially his Duality skill, though I give a brief summary of Kousuke points.

Kousuke have a amp called Abyssgate Lord, which currently amp 5x all his stats and progressively continue to amp everything until reach the point of fight tier 5 beings, additionally he can (and will) create hundreds of clones with his stats and abilities, something more to note is that in this state his mental state is incomprehensible to everyone (to the point that not even his friends, family and lovers understand him, similarly even a super AI from a futuristic world is unable to analyze him) and in this state however see him suffer mental damage that lower their sanity value (something that work even against machines or mindless monsters).

He also have a long list of powers but specially to note are the ancient magic based ones which are law and concept (Type 2) manip, his ancient magics is gravity magic and his artifacts have various others ancient magics, like his gloves with restoration magic (time manip) which restore all the wounds suffered by someone, his coin which have spirit magic that control people turn them in villagers (like the NPC villagers in a game), etc. He also have Yaya no Hidzuki (Shuten Douji) protecting him, she is an tier 6 abstract existence that can only die if her legend is destroyed through multiple worlds, also since apparently abstract existence Type 2 don't cover by default Incorporeality as I initially thought when adding her then I have also to say that apparitions can't be see or touched by normal people unless they specifically let them do so.

However his most dangerous thing is his presence, in short his passive presence is so noneexistent that machines (not even futuristic ones) can't detect him, neither people with a lot of special senses, and this presence have as secondary effect that people (be it humans, souls, monsters, machine or abstract existence) just passively forget his existence (hell not even his family or friends are consciouss that he exist), this effects apply even when he is in front of someone talking or having even a combat, this passive effects also get stronger if he put conscious effort using his assassin skills.
 
Janus is basically once you hit with something, he will instantly get resistence to it and the more you hit him (depending on how potent the ability is), the more increased his resistence from weak to full immunity goes. After being hit twice by a causality manipulation he gained full immunity to such effects for example (in this case the causality was so strong that it could combine two timelines together).

Duality lets him live in two realities at once (path a and path b) - basically live through 2 decisions at once - he could attack Kousuke in one while in the other he runs from Kosuke then he can decide which one will be the true path and that will become the "canon" path. Any ability, resistance, item or anything favorable he gain in one path will be transferred to the other (that's how he gained lots of powers/abilities and items by killing all the beings from x location in a path, then once again, once again and so one...same for resistance, he just kept being attack, or killed in one path then all its transferred to the other path making him practically a walking-hack). He can take for example Path B as canon which becomes the True Path then he once again splits it which becomes Path A and Path B then he takes A or B as canon and then once again splits it...indefinitely.

If you can't somehow kill him in both paths at the same time, he won't die, he will just keep getting stronger and more resilient till he becomes immune and gain whatever ability he needs.

Whatever he kills will be erased from existence across past, present and future - so any summon, clone or the like will meet this end if they are killed.

Through Nightscripts (basically the cheat codes of reality) he can use Find to locate objects/characters, Display will show him the stat window of things/characters, and Return is a saved point location that he can return upon death.
 
Zaratthustra said:
Janus is basically once you hit with something, he will instantly get resistence to it and the more you hit him (depending on how potent the ability is), the more increased his resistence from weak to full immunity goes. After being hit twice by a causality manipulation he gained full immunity to such effects for example (in this case the causality was so strong that it could combine two timelines together).

Duality lets him live in two realities at once (path a and path b) - basically live through 2 decisions at once - he could attack Kousuke in one while in the other he runs from Kosuke then he can decide which one will be the true path and that will become the "canon" path. Any ability, resistance, item or anything favorable he gain in one path will be transferred to the other (that's how he gained lots of powers/abilities and items by killing all the beings from x location in a path, then once again, once again and so one...same for resistance, he just kept being attack, or killed in one path then all its transferred to the other path making him practically a walking-hack). He can take for example Path B as canon which becomes the True Path then he once again splits it which becomes Path A and Path B then he takes A or B as canon and then once again splits it...indefinitely.

If you can't somehow kill him in both paths at the same time, he won't die, he will just keep getting stronger and more resilient till he becomes immune and gain whatever ability he needs.

Whatever he kills will be erased from existence across past, present and future - so any summon, clone or the like will meet this end if they are killed.

Through Nightscripts (basically the cheat codes of reality) he can use Find to locate objects/characters, Display will show him the stat window of things/characters, and Return is a saved point location that he can return upon death.
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Have him show to adapt to things like law and concept manip (Type 2)? Because other wise would be a bit nlf to assume he could adapt to ancient magic. Also, he get stronger stat wise? Because as said with his amp and Hidzuki Kousuke have a immense stat advantage, including speed wise since with his amp he can go from ftl to mftl+ (currently around 10,000xftl, which even with speed equal the percentage should continue), though now that I see it seems like I forgot to update his speed section with the recent crt so I need to fix that later (Hidzuki scale to last key Shea and Kousuke himself with Abyss Lord scale to Hajime and his wives which are mftl+).

The profile say that he need to activate it to work, so wouldn't Kousuke killing him before he get the chance to use it counter that? Because as I said Kousuke passive stealth is absurd, beings with special senses can't detect him even when he is right in fron of their eyes, people naturally forget his existence even in middle of combat, he even overwhelmed in a stealth sense a abstract existence born from the conception of stealth and his stealth have be stated various times to be in the realm of existence erasure. Janus not only should be unable to detect him but he also will be unable to remember his existence, that there exist something from which he have to be wary.

Also even if Janus somehow end using the Find command that shouldn't work against him since even when people have used things like radars (be it technological or supernatural ones) they didn't worked on him, to work they needed to be attached to someone else who he carried (like with Hina in the onmyouji arc).

Kousuke can kill Janus without be noticed and even if Janus somehow could end reviving he still would be unable to detect or remember him.

Edit: Also, forgot to mention this but his presence isn't a magical based power, nor is a skill based one (like, a stat skill), in the verse exist several energies and power systems, but Kousuke thing is said to be completely unknow and inexplicable, which is one of the reasons to why is so hard to face.
 
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Janus and his verse will get an update thus the match will become pointless.
 
No, but abilities and resistences will have some changes...some added, some removed and a few changed.
 
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