EMH Iron Man's Rating

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I checked out some EMH Thor respect threads, and apparently he tanked and redirected a city-destroying beam. So 7-B should be fine I suppose.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

He's fought Black Panther too, who's taken on most of the other Avengers.

Some EMH characters have respect threads on reddit as well.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I tried calculating some EMH feats, but most of them are just high-end Tier 8.

I think we can use the city-destroying one I suppose.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

This might get Tier 7, but it's hard to figure the size of that thing.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Anyway does everyone agree with downgrading EMH Thor?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

So...

7-B, up to Low 6-B with weather manipulation?

 

[Hellbeast1]

Definitely

I'm not sure if we should just put him as 7-B with 6-B weather manip or see if we can find other Tier 6 feats

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I haven't had any luck finding Tier 6 feats.

Is there a way to figure out the mass of that thing in the Hulk feat?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

This feat?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Yes.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

It's from the episodes where the Leader wants to turn everyone into gamma mutates.

You could try to calc Hulk's ~7' height to figure out the weight of it, or at least the metallic part.

Not sure you'll get anything too impressive from that but who knows.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

"Season 3 of Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy and Season 5 of Marvel's Avengers Assemble take place on Earth-TRN633 instead, as the former referenced events from Marvel's Spider-Ma instead of Ultimate Spider-Ma."

Oookay, so it changed reality mid-show...

I'll keep that in mind.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Huh it changed reality? Can you check if my calcs are in the correct reality?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I think so.

When it changed reality the artstyle changed a bit, most notably the characters no longer had any shading on them.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So are any of the calcs invalid?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

None of the calcs are invalid as far as I'm aware

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Anyway I suppose it'll be fine for me to slap the downgrades on the EMH characters, considering Dark-Carioca is the only knowledgeable member, plus Hellbeast1 and I also agree?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Yeah I guess that could be fine.

Though, don't we need to tell a mod or some other people that the change is going to be made?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

am I a joke to you

I think it's fine, since it's a pretty non-controversial verse plus you're the only knowledgeable member and the only staff member in the supporters list is me.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Oh right I forgot you are a staff member lol

You'd think the different username color would make that clear, but nope, got a brainfart anyway

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I also downgraded their speed to High Hypersonic for now, although Thor's profile claims there are lightning dodging feats. Can someone link those? They could potentially get MHS.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

With the amount of laser dodging feats in EMH, Relativistic speeds are more believable tbh

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I have downgraded them for now, although I am confident that we will find better feats.

Should base Iron Man scale to the top tiers tbh, since he is comparable to Black Panther and Captain America who could kinda hold their own against the top tiers?

Maybe "At least Building level, possibly City level", and then "At least City level" for Uru armour?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Yeah that's better

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

What are Black Panther's feats though?

 

[Hellbeast1]

From what I recall, mostly embarrasing Hawkwye and co

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I remember even Captain America has a lightning dodging feat, their speed ratings should definitely be upgraded.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

They also regularly dodge lasers, so, we should take that into account.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Can someone link some speed feats?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

For Cap:

Laser gun from Baron Strucker - https://streamable.com/jdq2f (Distance = About 3 ft?)

Head laser from Kang - https://streamable.com/dsqok (Distance = 10 m?)

Various instances of dodging Iron Man's beams - https://streamable.com/mlgev

 

[Dark-Carioca]

For Black Panther:

Head laser from Adam Warlock - https://streamable.com/x1mae (Distance, about 3 meters)

Various laser pistol shots - https://streamable.com/qc81s (Distance = Around 10 m)

Iron Man beams at various distances, even close up - https://streamable.com/crm8k

Ultron beams - https://streamable.com/c0gmb (Around 10 m)

Wonder Man beams - https://streamable.com/h44x8 (Similar distance as previous feat)

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

The Baron Strucker feat is probably the most impressive for Cap, since you can see that he didn't even start moving when the camera zoomed up close to his face.


Cap's head: 103 px or 0.25 m

Panel height: 225 px

Distance from point of view to object = object size * panel height in pixels/[object height in pixels*2*tan(70deg/2)]

0.25*225/(103*2*tan(70deg/2)) = 0.38996759892 m

0.38996759892/299792458 = 1.30079189e-9 seconds, FTL reactions

Cap seems to have dodged the distance of his own head.

0.25/1.30079189e-9/299792458 = 64.11% the speed of light, Relativistic+

So Relativistic+ combat speed with FTL reactions

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Hot damn

And this scales to everyone since Cap may be fast, but he's by no means the fastest one in the series

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Also, I added Earth-12041 to the MAU page

Even though I'm not a fan of it, it's good that the page is getting bigger and bigger

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I will put it in a blog later.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

The Thor calc too

 

[Hellbeast1]

FTL ******* CAP

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Avengers Assemble has the strongest Cap?

Well EMH has the FASTEST Cap

 

[Hellbeast1]

Man makes FTL Jango looks trash

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Damn these Marvel cartoons

@Hellbeast1 Jango's probably gonna be Relativistic