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Mmh true
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Elden Ring Profiles
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Any news about the missing profiles like Ranni or the Tarnished?
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I have plans for spirit ashes profiles, how do we deal with them in terms of tier?
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We scale their normal selves to their original selves.
Chariot was handling Ranni but idk about his progress. I was handling Tarnished but I'm busy with other projects
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As strong as the normal versions at base level and Scaled to whatever Key the Tarnished is when they get them when they're maxed out.
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Main problem is the normal version especially for named characters (like Luthel or Ogha) though I guess I can use the location they're found in or comparison with regular similar enemies if they have no feat to their name (Ogha for example is a Redmane Knight and the Redmanes fought against the Cleanrot Knights who could harm Radahn)
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Harry speedrunning the whole series by learning every ER Spells be like:
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About to finish another rush on ER, this time on Xbox (yes, I bought the game on Xbox Series X). Defeated Malenia yesterday, took me 5 attemtps (thanks Tiche). I had no idea of what I was doing but she never killed me in her first phase. And most of all, I managed to dodge Waterfowl Dance. Without damages. SEVERAL TIMES.
Then I got to Mohg. He killed me 8 times, mostly because I was enjoying the fight too much. It was like a frickin' movie. When I defeated him, my Mimic Tear was dead, I had 0 healing flask left and he had just a single line of red in his lifebar. Ended in close-combat. I killed him just at the moment his theme was ending. I love this boss.
Then I got to Mohg. He killed me 8 times, mostly because I was enjoying the fight too much. It was like a frickin' movie. When I defeated him, my Mimic Tear was dead, I had 0 healing flask left and he had just a single line of red in his lifebar. Ended in close-combat. I killed him just at the moment his theme was ending. I love this boss.
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So is the Ogha blog okay for publishing?
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Why isn't the full AP Tier bolded? The Large in Large Star doesn't match the rest of it.
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Going to correct it once I get m'y computer back
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Corrected
Anything else to say?
Anything else to say?
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Not really, looks fine to me now unless I missed something.
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The tier is really the thing I'm the most "worried" about but looks like it's okay with most people here
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Currently on a plan to make multiple Spirit Ashes profiles
Next ones should be Lhutel, Oleg and I have plans for Amon, Tricia, Carmaan and more or less all of them. I know some people wantedt o deal with Finaly and Tiche but since the verse has seemingly been put on hold, I can make them if that's okay
Next ones should be Lhutel, Oleg and I have plans for Amon, Tricia, Carmaan and more or less all of them. I know some people wantedt o deal with Finaly and Tiche but since the verse has seemingly been put on hold, I can make them if that's okay
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Question regarding the 4-A stuff.
Why are we assuming the purple fart thing are stars? Is there like a statement or something? Doesn't the Elden Beast use it against us at one point too?
Why are we assuming the purple fart thing are stars? Is there like a statement or something? Doesn't the Elden Beast use it against us at one point too?
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What are you talking about?
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4-A stuff comes from Radahn
Oh nevermind, I'm wrong
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Radahn doesn't have 4-A stuff, his is only High 4-C
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Elden Ring: Maliketh Revision
I have some problems with the Maliketh page, especially this one: limited Death Manipulation and Conceptual Manipulation and Immortality Negation (Type 2 concepts, Types 5 and 7 Immortality; Via the Black Blade imbued with the Rune of Death. This doesn't instantly kill an opponent but when...
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We have very random 4-A ratings imo. The star dust thing people are refering to was literally used at us in the battle and it was very clearly not stars.
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That's not what 4-A was tho
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I figured. What's the reasoning?
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Them having a resistance value can give them a baseline resistance if it's a particularly high one imo
Immunity to Death and Madness are honestly total bullshit lore-wise, them being immune is just to keep everyone and their mother from one-shotting bosses that should take tens of tries.
The reason the cycle of life and death is screwed up and there's so much Deathroot everywhere is explicitly because Death manip worked very well on a certain Demigod and his improperly disposed-of cadaver is now spreading its deathly infection across the Erdtree's root system.
As for Madness, the end result of spreading chaos and collapsing order is to melt all life back into a collective, no exceptions. Anyone who gets substance, power, etc. from the Elden Ring (everyone except the Greater Will and the Yellow Chaos Flame) can be subsumed by Chaos as it is the antithesis of Order (the Elden Ring)
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Elden Beast isn't 4-A for that, it's 4-A for forming a pocket realm filled with stars and nebulae
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That is indeed what I was referring to.
There is a handful of assumptions being made here, Elden Beast realesed a large amount of Nebula, which we already see in the main battle clearly not as stars but as a cloud of glittering magic that explodes. I am asking if there is any confirmation that the Elden Beast even created that "dimension?" It really just looks like it released this Magic around us, and then transported us to said dimension.
There is a handful of assumptions being made here, Elden Beast realesed a large amount of Nebula, which we already see in the main battle clearly not as stars but as a cloud of glittering magic that explodes. I am asking if there is any confirmation that the Elden Beast even created that "dimension?" It really just looks like it released this Magic around us, and then transported us to said dimension.
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Wait, are you comparing an Elden Beast attack that looks like a nebula to the real nebula that we see in the background????
If it was a simple teleport, there was no reason the Tarnished would have returned to the Erdtree when the Elden Beast died. In general a BFR does not work like that.
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1 it's one valid possibility, your proposition is another, however --
2 there's precedent for Tier 4 since Radahn explicitly held constellations in place (which is something that involves legit astronomical stars as opposed to meteors or even planets), and even he wasn't powerful enough to become Elden Lord, meaning the Elden Beast is far above anything Radahn could do
3 what Hakim said also makes sense
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Totally agree, and I think we shouldn't count the other boss immunities without evidence of that in the lore
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Wait, why are Godfrey, Rennala and Shabriri 4-A? I mean, I don't see any good reason for these characters to have that rating honestly.
There is no evidence that the Radagon that faced Rennala had the same potency as the Radagon that faced the Tarnished. The first Radagon, even if he was already Marika at this point in the story as suggested by Miriel's dialogues and the description of the Mask of Confidence, he had not yet completely merged with Marika, he was not yet a "God" as clearly said Marika. So logically the Radagon after his marriage to Marika was much more powerful than before.
For Godfrey, the Tarnished faced him before Radagon, and between these two boss fights the tarnished has access to a site of grace that allows him to improve and increase in power.
Only Tarnished, Elden Beast and Marika/Radagon should be 4-A (and Radagon should have two keys, for the reasons already mentioned).
There is no evidence that the Radagon that faced Rennala had the same potency as the Radagon that faced the Tarnished. The first Radagon, even if he was already Marika at this point in the story as suggested by Miriel's dialogues and the description of the Mask of Confidence, he had not yet completely merged with Marika, he was not yet a "God" as clearly said Marika. So logically the Radagon after his marriage to Marika was much more powerful than before.
For Godfrey, the Tarnished faced him before Radagon, and between these two boss fights the tarnished has access to a site of grace that allows him to improve and increase in power.
Only Tarnished, Elden Beast and Marika/Radagon should be 4-A (and Radagon should have two keys, for the reasons already mentioned).
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Yeah Shabriri has no reason to even scale around demi-god level characters.
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I'm fine with Godfrey being 4-A, since Radagon/Elden Beast is significantly above baseline, Godfrey would still fall in that range from downscaling. And if we treat absorbing Remembrances as absorbing the power of the ones we claim them from, then the boost from killing Godfrey is only about 2x or a little bit above, so it's not even a very sizeable downscale.
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Who tf invited that r/antinatalism loser to the 4-A Club?
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He can also put up a good fight against the Tarnished after they've fought Malenia at her strongest yet, a single bloom away from godhood and consequently being able to take Marika's place. At this point Tarnished has also killed Maliketh, who defeated the Gloam-Eyed Queen, who at very least was a direct threat to Marika if not also the previous God, and holds the Rune of Death, one of the most powerful and consequential Runes of the Elden Ring. They've also killed Gideon Ofnir at this point, who has been collecting the most powerful spells in the setting and would have also had a solid chance at the throne if he hadn't been gaslit by Radagon into thinking it was impossible
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The fact that Malenia has not yet attained godhood during her fight against the Tarnished proves that this is not a valid argument for defending the Godfrey 4-A.
The Gloam-Eyed Queen was an Empyrean, not a Goddess. Malenia is also an Empyrean, and she is only High 4-C.
It is only their equipments that the Tarnished receives from their remembrances.
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Shabriri can be High 4-C if he faced Godfrey.
If the Tarnished was able to defeat Demigods or characters of that level, why not other characters?
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Shabiri is already dead lore wise, so this is a big nono.
Because literally anyone can fight and harm the Tarnished. Even the animals could. It's much more reliable to go with lore. And lore wise, Shabiri has never fought the Demigod level Tarnished
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