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I have some problems with the Maliketh page, especially this one:
This page implies that Demigods have Type 5 immortality, which I disagree with. Here is a copy-paste of my argument that I had already used on a previous thread (that no one follows anymore):
"I don't think there is enough evidence to give type 5 immortality to Demi-Gods,
We know people can die in the Lands Between, and that explains why Those Who Live in Death exists.
Those Who Live in Death are blasphemers and goes against the ideals of the Golden Order as their souls do not join the Erdtree to resurrect or reincarnate, this contradicts the Law of Causation and Regression that the fundamentalists of the Golden Order love so much.
People affected by the Rune of Death die completely, their bodies and souls are killed, which again prevents them from joining the Erdtree and is against the ideals of the Golden Order, and the rune of Fia confirms that this order exists since Marika removed the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring.
All of these things also explain why the Dung Eater was given the death penalty, as he prevents the souls of his victims from joining the Erdtree, an unforgivable crime.
Enia also implied that Demi-Gods can die:
But given their powers and their great longevity, none of the Demi-Gods could be killed or die, before the assassination of Godwyn.
If Demigods have Immo 5 while other people in Lands Between can die, that would mean removing or adding a Rune in the Elden Ring only affects Demigods, which contradicts other things established in the lore"
EDIT: Jerren also said that Demi-Gods can die:
The other thing that may need to be revised is this:
Why would that be Type 9 Immortality? This case also looks like Type 3 Acausality:
Farum Azula has a bizarre relationship with time, it is highly possibly that the Farum we visit in the game is a place of the past, not the present, which might explain why it's described as "beyond time".
I think "possibly Acausality (Type 3)" seems more plausible than the Immortality here.
This page implies that Demigods have Type 5 immortality, which I disagree with. Here is a copy-paste of my argument that I had already used on a previous thread (that no one follows anymore):
"I don't think there is enough evidence to give type 5 immortality to Demi-Gods,
We know people can die in the Lands Between, and that explains why Those Who Live in Death exists.
Those Who Live in Death are blasphemers and goes against the ideals of the Golden Order as their souls do not join the Erdtree to resurrect or reincarnate, this contradicts the Law of Causation and Regression that the fundamentalists of the Golden Order love so much.
People affected by the Rune of Death die completely, their bodies and souls are killed, which again prevents them from joining the Erdtree and is against the ideals of the Golden Order, and the rune of Fia confirms that this order exists since Marika removed the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring.
All of these things also explain why the Dung Eater was given the death penalty, as he prevents the souls of his victims from joining the Erdtree, an unforgivable crime.
Enia also implied that Demi-Gods can die:
But given their powers and their great longevity, none of the Demi-Gods could be killed or die, before the assassination of Godwyn.
If Demigods have Immo 5 while other people in Lands Between can die, that would mean removing or adding a Rune in the Elden Ring only affects Demigods, which contradicts other things established in the lore"
EDIT: Jerren also said that Demi-Gods can die:
The other thing that may need to be revised is this:
Why would that be Type 9 Immortality? This case also looks like Type 3 Acausality:
Farum Azula has a bizarre relationship with time, it is highly possibly that the Farum we visit in the game is a place of the past, not the present, which might explain why it's described as "beyond time".
I think "possibly Acausality (Type 3)" seems more plausible than the Immortality here.
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