Ejen Ali attack boost and AP upgrade for Kim, Durability upgrade for Alicia's and Ali's weapons CRT

[Greatsage13th]

A simple CRT with a low end to high end for attack boost and maybe a change in statistics.

Ali with the usage of attack boost managed to pen through 3 walls of microbugs, when 2 tops launched without attack boost were simply assimilated into a small wall of microbugs.

This should warrant Ali to the bare minimum of 3X above his standard AP but if we were take a look at the previous episode. (75.44391 Kilotons or Town level+)

In misi: Sengat, Bakar punches the pillar chief of Kombat 16 times amping the energy punch with it. (13:10) But even that only penetrated a singular wall of microbugs (13:22)

Basically if it takes 16 punches in addition to the original energy punch to pen through a singular microbug wall. that would mean Ali logically at most has a 51X attack boost above his standard AP to pen through 3 in one shot. (1.28254647 megatons or Small City level)

Kim disperses a swarm of microbugs encompassing her with just 4 slashes, meaning her sword strikes are stronger (106.8788725 kilotons or large town level assuming the high end of 17 times of standard AP from the amped energy ounch is accepted)

From that Alicia's Bow-Staff's durability gets upgraded to large town level from it

The durability of Ali's hybrid tops would depend on the accepted attack boost as it withstood its own recoil.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Isn't this, like, applying a multiplier on Ali's attacks? Those need to be from reliable direct statements, not reasoned from something else

Multipliers

A multiplier is generally some number a different number is multiplied with to get a new number. For our VS Battles use we more specifically refer to a number as multiplier, if that number is multiplied with some statistic of a character or its attacks to get a new statistic for the character...

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In misi: Sengat, Bakar punches the pillar chief of Kombat 16 times amping the energy punch with it. (13:10) But even that only penetrated a singular wall of microbugs (13:22)

Basically if it takes 16 punches in addition to the original energy punch to pen through a singular microbug wall

If an amped punch penetrated a microbug wall, that's no reason for the wall to scale. The amped punch's AP is unquantifiably above the wall's durability by a one-shot

 

[Greatsage13th]

Isn't this, like, applying a multiplier on Ali's attacks? Those need to be from reliable direct statements, not reasoned from something else

Multipliers

A multiplier is generally some number a different number is multiplied with to get a new number. For our VS Battles use we more specifically refer to a number as multiplier, if that number is multiplied with some statistic of a character or its attacks to get a new statistic for the character...

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Not always. As stated later in the page

If an amped punch penetrated a microbug wall, that's no reason for the wall to scale. The amped punch's AP is unquantifiably above the wall's durability by a one-shot

It still took 16 times amp on top of the original punch to penetrate through and even so. The punch didn't even dissipate after clashing with the microbug wall so the point still stands it took that much energy to break through other wise it would've just hit Cinco.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Not always. As stated later in the page

I don't see it. The literal start of the page explicitly says that they must come from direct statements. Everything else afterwards only applies if there is a direct statement

Multipliers come from direct statements instead of being reasoned from something else. That means, for example, that if a verse has powerlevels or statistics, the doubling of a statistic or power level should not be concluded to correspond to the power of the character doubling, unless it is clearly specified to work that way.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I'll just see what others may think first

 

[Qawsedf234]

Like Marvel said that's not enough for a 3x AP increase. Something like a 1.5X increase that can just clear through the walls can replicate it without changing much. The best example I can think of is something like gun-shooting videos. There are examples of where a 50% increase in power can allow a bullet to punch through far more material than a less powerful round.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Like Marvel said that's not enough for a 3x AP increase. Something like a 1.5X increase that can just clear through the walls can replicate it without changing much. The best example I can think of is something like gun-shooting videos. There are examples of where a 50% increase in power can allow a bullet to punch through far more material than a less powerful round.

How about the part where 16 punches enhanced a single energy punch that managed to only penetrate a singular wall? That should pretty much be far higher than just 2 x increase in energy right? Considering that a singular punch from a character comparable to 7C enhances another 7C punch by a magnitude of 16 times over the original. Surely that warrants something far higher than 2X or 3X damage boost.

 

[Qawsedf234]

How about the part where 16 punches enhanced a single energy punch that managed to only penetrate a singular wall?

I think its the same principle. Its more about getting over the material's durability threshold and the attack not losing power.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I think its the same principle. Its more about getting over the material's durability threshold and the attack not losing power.

What's the durability threshold? The walls weren't affected by anything other than these 2 cases of attack amps with one being superior to the latter. The next thing is how can the 2 attacks above lose power?

 

[DontTalkDT]

As others said, we don't deduce multipliers from feats. Multipliers require clear statements.

 

[Greatsage13th]

As others said, we don't deduce multipliers from feats. Multipliers require clear statements.

understandable