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Dragonball Movie Characters Speed

I calculed the kamehameha in the first Cooler movie in being around 20c, however, that use cinematic time so it could be slower; question: weren't Paragus with Broly when Broly destroyed the galaxy?
 
Oh right, I'm good to place Broly, Bojack and Buu at mftl+ in flying speed, the Bojack's speed should scale to his gang (they traveling along with him I guess), Buu speed should scale to any incarnation, and Broly speed to space ship (doubt this is necesary)
 
Anyone below the Cell saga should be scaled to canon speed, including Slug, Cooler, the androids. Seems good?
 
No. We have two MFTL+ feats compared to one At least Sub-Rel (due to different time spans) feat, as well as the fact that BoS Piccolo (At least Sub-Rel) < BoS Goku <<< Raditz = Saibaman < SS Piccolo << Nappa <<< Goku << KKx2 Goku <Vegeta < KKx3 Goku < KKx4 Goku << Monster Zarbon <<<< Ginyu MFTL+ feat << Goku MFTL+ feat
 
What? No? The MFTL+ feats are non canon, I'm just trying to show that it is dishonest to scale characters that are leagues above someone At least Sub-Rel, when two feats close to their level is MFTL+
 
I'm 99% sure it's traversing with his ship, in which case, not an MFTL+ feat. I urge not bringing up sensing. That whole scaling via that is flawed, as everyone can sense each other for the most part.
 
Ye I agree. Although, I wonder why we haven't added "Sensing (Can detect up to X speed at this point)" to the DBZ profiles....
 
Yea, most likely that feat is sensing someone or jumping from the ship, that isn't notable enough or misinterpreted, also, why the ship would be mftl+? I though that it takes some hours to travel from saturn to earth.
 
Alright. So, there's Buu, Broly, and Bojack with the BFTL+ feats, correct? I mean MFTL+. There's a lot of B's here. And still. Kirby has 3 universal/MG feats, (and a lot of implications that previous enemies scale to it) in an incredibly short timespan, but he's 4-A.

Keep in mind that the characters are going from ~.25c to 1000+c in a day or two if we keep this.
 
Not sure about the tracking thing, the pods are millions of kilometers away and are moving in one direction, just need to sense the energy when they are approching; what is in the blog isn't different to say that I'm Mach 1 cuz I'm able to track a plane from below.
 
Ki sensing does not work the same way as looking at something, they made this blatantly clear in the saiyan Saga.
 
IIRC, would sensing even be a speed feat? Sensing something is one thing. Being able to react or do something else should be an entirely different thing. I could sense a gun being fired but that doesnt mean I can dodge it before it pierces my face.

It would be like saying Toph can react to things moving, at least, at MHS+ speeds because she can sense the movements of everything while touching the earth. Yet she failed reacting to much slower speeds, even the speed of Zuko's firebending which resulted in her feet getting burned
 
SomebodyData said:
@Crop so you believe that the 2 MFTL+ feats are outliers, and that the 4 other MFTL+ don't disprove the one At least Sub-Rel feat?
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Maybe he doesn't know much about DB?

anyway,mtfl rating are ok for non canon
 
ATTENTION: I would like for everyone to stay on topic, this is strictly about MOVIE characters and not the other non-canon mediums. My main point is that characters like Turles shouldn't be MFTL because they're being scaled from a feat that happened in the Anime, which doesn't scale to the movies in any way.
 
FTW395 said:
ATTENTION: I would like for everyone to stay on topic, this is strictly about MOVIE characters and not the other non-canon mediums. My main point is that characters like Turles shouldn't be MFTL because they're being scaled from a feat that happened in the Anime, which doesn't scale to the movies in any way.
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Everything that isnt canon we put into the same category so DBZ and its Filler, DBZ Movies and DBGT all scale to one another so we are indeed on topic.
 
RadicalMrR said:
Everything that isnt canon we put into the same category so DBZ and its Filler, DBZ Movies and DBGT all scale to one another so we are indeed on topic.
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Then you should maybe reconsider this and make seperate non-canon verses, because as I've already said the Movie canon =/= the Anime Canon. Sure you can still keep the MFTL broly feat and the MFTL Bojack feat because they happened in that movie. You can't however scale movie ratings from Anime (non-canon) feats that's just wrong.
 
Well thats a completely different thread, we were all going the assumption that you agreed with the scaling to all non canon medias but thought the MFTL+ was an outlier.

I think its been brought before so im not sure how far you'll get.
 
@Rad In all honesty the thread did start out with me thinking the MFTL feat should be an outlier, because I was unaware of all the other MFTL feats that happened in the movies.
 
Probably has been brought up before. However, don't think I was aware of it (most likely I didn't bother), so now that I am, I'm determined to see this through. Because on chat, a few staff/ex-staff found MFTL+ Turles to be a joke.
 
Also, I don't believe we should group all of Toei DB together, like FTW said. Compare it on taking the Adventure Mode of Hyrule Warriors. It's non-canon of non-canon. That's ridiculous.
 
Didnt a bunch of the non canon stuff appear in GT?(I honestly skipped like half the episodes so im actually not sure)
 
Only thing I can think of is the Dragon Fist and the Tuffle plot. That's actually it. When 17 was released, the movie villains didn't escape.
 
We don't group the non-canons together, unless they have links to each other on the timeline.

Also, just because some people thought some stats are a joke doesn't mean anything. Are we to downgrade Giygas to street level because a downplayer and a few members here think he is? (Also by the way, that's a fallacy of association, just pointing that out there)
 
RadicalMrR said:
Didnt a bunch of the non canon stuff appear in GT?(I honestly skipped like half the episodes so im actually not sure)
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We've gone over this somewhere in this thread.
 
Honest question. When? They showed back up in Fusion Reborn, another movie. Not GT.

EDIT: One did. Cooler. That's actually it.
 
So... you have any other arguments against the movie villains getting the scaling or is that it?
 
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