This topic is about revision of cosmology, the cosmology of DB has not changed, but the interpretation imposed on DB is wrong, so this should be resolved as soon as possible, the better the cosmology is worked on, the less wrong things will exist and we will not need more threads to update cosmology, that's what I intend lol
yes, about it being low 2-c or not, high 3-A stuff is not even in the op at all and is derailing
yes, there is evidence of this, said in the work itself about the sectors, now I ask a question, how can sectors be a refutation for the Universe of DB being infinite? Guide at no time contracted the work, it only helps to clarify things more, it still works the same
if you believe that it is wrong make a thread for it later, this thread is about the tier 2 stuff, the high 3-A stuff is derailing
and here is akm'syes, there is evidence of this, said in the work itself about the sectors, now I ask a question, how can sectors be a refutation for the Universe of DB being infinite? Guide at no time contracted the work, it only helps to clarify things more, it still works the same
Zamasu's comment explaining
https://vsbattles.com/threads/question-about-dragon-ball-universe-size.133453/post-4613067
DB only has four Galaxies
Wouldn't the current discussions rules be impeding progress on the Cosmology blog? I feel like it will be used unfairly as a weapon against the cosmology blog. I think for this one time it should be an exception because this could cosmology blog could be seen as the blog to end all DB Cosmology debates until new information is given with the currently on going story.
nope, it is just explaining the current cosmology
We have seen and already know all the arguements for high 3A universe but regardless if it has to be this time I would like to end things fast as this topic has been going over for quite long. So I want to ask the staff members present here.
I also think this should be discussed and all loose ends closed at once, there are so many rules imposed in DB that no other verse has, we should also discuss about the afterlife where it is a higher dimension and has different space-time
multiple verses have multiple discussion rules applied to them, db is not an exeption
no we shouldn't, the afterlife different space time/higher dimension talk was also brought up numerous times in the past, even in the last thread, this thread is about the low 2-C rating specifically, if you want to make a thread about it make a thread for it later, since it is derailing in this one
why do you feel so bothering?
what do you mean?
I'm still in the sourcing and scan collecting process.
but the guide itself supports the work, in the manga and anime there are also quotes of the existence of countless galaxies and stars, and none of the mention of the guides is contracted, everything there is by Akira toriyama, so does that mean that the Akira toriyama guides themselves are just for decoration? I think this is very wrong, several works use guides to further level up his cosmology, such as Bleach and others, but there is so much evidence, and Akira toriyama's own signature, but we cannot use
most verses use guides as support, they cannot be the only evidence, the manga has priority over akira himself, whatever he says has less value than the series itself
this business of four galaxies is a misinterpretation that AKM made, these are sectors, in every work these sectors are mentioned as Northern Galaxy and among others, this is easily refuted by itself, How is this contradictory to the work? So is it said the same?
hermes was contacted during these threads and they said that it could translate either way
The size of being stated to be "at least the size of our universe." Changes the context of the guidebook scan to mean "galaxies" and "sectors" that's hpw yhe Japanese language works context changes the meaning of a sentence. Ran into this several times with Saint Seiya
exactly bro, mango It is anime there are said to be countless galaxies and the only galaxy they are in is huge, and in the GT itself it is said to have infinitas Galáxias It is here
none of those say infinite tho, the toei stuff is non canon and would not aply to the main canon, and i am pretty sure the fact that the universe is said to have a border disqualify any infinity statement whatsoever
the madman, is having an edge a reason to disable the verse from being infinite? I can cite several that have edges and are shaped like balls, but I will not go into question, the Universe does not have an edge refutes to be infinite, my friend.
Infinity can reasonably have an end/edge. its if a tier 1-A verse that uses advanced mathmatics is when it get would probably get sketch with it.
i meant in the sense of 3D space, if it is infinite 3D space, then it wouldn't have an end, in some specific cases maybe, but it would need too much context
The discussion rule can be removed if you can prove the reasoning for it is wrong which I think a staff said when Luffy made a questions and answer thread a while back
yeah the guide literally mentions that a galaxy is a denomination used by the gods for sections of the universe and these NSEW quadrants are still used in the dbs manga which proves that in the guide it’s talking about sections of the universe for example when Broly was shown destroying a galaxy and Goku was still able to teleport to the “Southern Galaxy” because it’s merely a section of the universe and a
The dimensional walls seperate each realm spatially and in the toei anime spatiotemporally and travel between the universes aren’t possible plus infinite can have an edge and be crossed in various verses
yeah, but the point is that this is not the thread for that, this is for the tier 2 things and nothing more, create another thread if you want to remove the rule and deal with the tier 3 shenanigans, this thread has nothing to do with that
in fact, the topic has already been discussed and now they are blogging about cosmology, all that happens here is a review on cosmology, there is no need to create a new topic.
Yes, for that very reason that four galaxies in DB should cease to exist, the rule was imposed in a misinterpretation.
it was discussed in past with the exact same points that are being brought up now, what happened here and in the last thread was all about tier 2, tier is irrelevant and was never the point of any of the threads and it is thus just derail, if you believe the points that affect tier 3 are valid, organized them, write an explanation, then create a new thread focusing on it instead of convoluting it with the tier 2 stuff
This thread is being used to make a cosmology blog that Ant requested and Fire made so the topic of the thread rn is the cosmology making this important
that can be done but this is the right topic for this thread since that affects the cosmology
The tier 2 part of it yes, the tier 3 part is irrelevant for this and the other threads
No it isn't since this thread has nothing to do with the size of universe, it is completely irrelevant for this topic
Still better to do another thread focused on it
The cosmology blog needs to have everything about it related to the db cosmology it’s a cosmology blog ant requested making a cosmology blog and this is what is being discussed there was a cosmology blog draft made by an admin Fire which included the infinite universe arguments so we’re now currently discussing it since we are making a cosmology blog that will include everything about the cosmology and it’s sizes multiple staff and ant talked about making a cosmology blog in near of the end of page 1 and beginnings of page 2 you can check it again if you want but we’re Making a cosmology blog so yes infinite universe is important
He’s already made a rough draft and some stuff in his blog is being discussed now since it included the infinite universe
