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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 88

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Calm down in what? The dude is being very dismissive and ignorant, and this substainated by what happened in the other thread.

What question? Don't be ridiculous.
 
I wasn't attacking the stance that it was a question, i was attacking the stance that the answer was correct to the question.
 
And, what do you mean ignorant? He's right.

Jiren was stated numerous times to be the most powerful foe in Dragon Ball history, which would place him above Infinte Zamasu who had merged with an entire timeline, thus making him Low 2-C. Then, there's Shin, who was there during the Zamasu incident, who said Jiren was the strongest person he's ever felt before or something like that, further supporting Jiren's Low 2-C rating. Then, after his fight in 123 against Jiren, he was able to take on a Jiren who was less suppressed than befoe, thus making him Low 2-C. He can't be 2-C or God forbid 2-B because we don't use the Super Saiyan multipliers here to calculate power.
 
Omegas03 said:
After you destroy 2 universes you already covered the unquantifiable distance, so multipliers should get you to higher universe. someone who destroys 1000 universes ain't infinitely weaker than someone who destroys 1001. Sadly that's not how the system works.
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i mean, the distance between universes doesn't have to be the same.

if you destroy universe A and B at once, that means you crossed the distance between both, but the distance between universe B and C might be way higher that A to B, or even lower, so is pretty unreliable to just consider the universes to be at a organized order with similar distances.

also, if the "multiversal space" that your attack needs to breach and cross, counts as a higher dimension, or as the tiering system says, 5D axis, then the distance itself might work different than our own.

IIRC, maths from lower dimensions not always carry to higher dimensions, at least not fully, but i might be wrong.
 
Have you even watched DBS? Zamasu embodied a universe, and was viably stated to affect the other timelines in the process, and if not erased, he wss going to embody the Multiverses in their respective timelines, which accounts for 2C, even when lowballed.

There is nothing which contradicts multipliers being a usage to calculate power.
 
Thelastmlg said:
Omegas03 said:
After you destroy 2 universes you already covered the unquantifiable distance, so multipliers should get you to higher universe. someone who destroys 1000 universes ain't infinitely weaker than someone who destroys 1001. Sadly that's not how the system works.
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i mean, the distance between universes doesn't have to be the same.
if you destroy universe A and B at once, that means you crossed the distance between both, but the distance between universe B and C might be way higher that A to B, or even lower, so is pretty unreliable to just consider the universes to be at a organized order with similar distances.

also, if the "multiversal space" that your attack needs to breach and cross, counts as a higher dimension, or as the tiering system says, 5D axis, then the distance itself might work different than our own.

IIRC, maths from lower dimensions not always carry to higher dimensions, at least not fully, but i might be wrong.
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As i said earlier, the distance between two universe is range, not AP and doesn't matter anyway because it's empty outside of the stuff being destroyed so nothing will slow down or diminish the attack as it cover the distance.
 
Dragomer said:
As i said earlier, the distance between two universe is range, not AP and doesn't matter anyway because it's empty outside of the stuff being destroyed so nothing will slow down or diminish the attack as it cover the distance.
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low-2-C already destroys space and time, why would 2-C and 2-B not destroy the spacetime that is between the universes? it may or may not be devoid of matter, but there is still existence on it, which you can affect on this level, thus slowing the explosion as it destroys the continuum between both universes.
 
Mulgara said:
Have you even watched DBS?
Zamasu embodied a universe, and was viably stated to affect the other timelines in the process, and if not erased, he wss going to embody the Multiverses in their respective timelines, which accounts for 2C, even when lowballed.

There is nothing which contradicts multipliers being a usage to calculate power.
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First off, "Have you even watched DBS" is a stupid question. But, that's besides the point.

He'd become 2-C over time, which was stated on Zamasu's page. But, he had not reached that level before he was erased, so no.
 
There was a blog not too long ago that argued for 2-C Infinite Zamasu and everyone who scales above him (UIO1 Goku, etc) but it was rejected.
 
@Mulgara, find the rejected CRTs and see the reasoning behind rejecting 2-C. Then you create your own CRT to try to change that, just keep in mind that most people that discussed this in past is tired of the subject because it has been discussed to exhaustion many times.

Zamasu was merging with the future timeline and his essence/being was "leaking" to the present, he didn't fully merge with two timelines before getting yeeted to get a 2-C rating.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
He only took over one universe. He was spreading to the other parts of the Multiverse, and was bleeding into the present time, but he had not become 2-C yet.
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He took over the timeline though, which is why Zeno nuked all of it.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Only one timeline, which is Low 2-C.
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No, one timeline is 2-C, it's a single universe that's low 2-C by our standards, Zeno is 2-C for destroying said timeline.
 
ArgosaxDespair said:
@Mulgara, find the rejected CRTs and see the reasoning behind rejecting 2-C. Then you create your own CRT to try to change that, just keep in mind that most people that discussed this in past is tired of the subject because it has been discussed to exhaustion many times.

Zamasu was merging with the future timeline and his essence/being was "leaking" to the present, he didn't fully merge with two timelines before getting yeeted to get a 2-C rating.
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Zeno eraesed him, that does not exclude the notion that he was going to the affect the surrounding timrlines.
 
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