Dragon Ball Super Discussion thread 5

[AllanSaiyan]

i feel real greedy now
at first i wanted tier 3 beerus, now I am hoping for a tier 2 god tier ...

but im sure my hoping will stop at tier 2 =)

Lol you at it again huh smh.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

Lol you at it again huh smh.

its called HOPING

no freedom to think then?

 

[Lejon123!]

just wondering can goku use his normal ki. Or did his normal ki convert so godly ki

 

[Dragon_Emperor_lV]

just wondering can goku use his normal ki. Or did his normal ki convert so godly ki

He can use both.

 

[Lejon123!]

ok

 

[Soul01]

there is a theory going on on how hit is a hitman and that he there to assassinate someone

 

[Shock97]

there is a theory going on on how hit is a hitman and that he there to assassinate someone

Not hard to believe tbh if it does turn out to be true.

 

[Soul01]

since his name may be a pun for hitman thats why

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

there is a theory going on on how hit is a hitman and that he there to assassinate someone

Could be

 

[AnimeFanboy2916]

there is a theory going on on how hit is a hitman and that he there to assassinate someone

What if he assassinates Whis? That would be crazy!

 

[Shock97]

Does anyone think this planet died on the atomic level?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111201000/4823507-beerus+and+goku+ki+clash.gif

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

hmmm that is possible (considering how the waves get sless restricted/ stronger as they move away and the true energy of each clash being like 1/3rd universe level

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

hmmm that is possible (considering how the waves get sless restricted/ stronger as they move away and the true energy of each clash being like 1/3rd universe level

yo bro please make a calc about vaporizing a planet with shockwave alone. take earth for size. do you think it's solar system in energy output?

 

[Shock97]

hmmm that is possible (considering how the waves get sless restricted/ stronger as they move away and the true energy of each clash being like 1/3rd universe level

I'm surprised few people talked about this feat. Everyone was so focused on the "Universal" acts I think they missed this detail. At the very least it was likely destroyed on the molecular level (since Buu was vaporized in the past).

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

hmmm that is possible (considering how the waves get sless restricted/ stronger as they move away and the true energy of each clash being like 1/3rd universe level

yo bro please make a calc about vaporizing a planet with shockwave alone. take earth for size. do you think it's solar system in energy output?

1- no idea how far it was

2- i can make one for separating all atoms (by looking at some reference energy table), but that will only give a very rough estimate, since other factors need to be accounted for


overall, its gonna be worthless

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

Damn. I really wanted to see a number for it :/ No prob man

 

[Shock97]

Damn. I really wanted to see a number for it :/ No prob ma

Same. I really do think they have atomic level destruction at this point.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

ok put this into perspective:

the max energy in a planet of earth lvl mass is around 5.4 x 10^41 J

and the energy of binding compared to total energy is much smaller, so energy needed to atomise earth at 0 distance shud be likw 5-A to High 5-A (based on an initial speculation)

definitely well below star level (or small star lvl for that matter)

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

does it take shockwave into account?

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

does it take shockwave into account?

it does not consider the distance from the origin

only the minimum energy needed to do it

 

[RavenSupreme]

to put the feat in perspective if it were earth which got atomically annihilated:

earth cubic meter

1 083 200 000 000 000 000 000

70% of it water

758.240.000.000.000.000.000,00

x 1 000 000

= 758240000000000000000000000 cubic centimeter

complete atomic annihilation of water:

8.9363E12j/cc

758240000000000000000000000 x 8.9363E12

= 6775860112000000000000000000000000000000 joules

30% of it rock (simply put)

324.960.000.000.000.000.000

x 1 000 000

= 324960000000000000000000000 cubic centimer

complete atomic annihilation of rock:

5.403E13j/cc

324960000000000000000000000 x 5.403E13j/cc

= 17557588800000000000000000000000000000000 joules

---

6775860112000000000000000000000000000000

+

17557588800000000000000000000000000000000

= 24333448912000000000000000000000000000000 joules

-> small star level

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

Thank you Ravensupreme. It's 2.43x 10^40 Joules, around small star level (low 4C). Maybe I overestimated the feat

 

[RavenSupreme]

Thank you Ravensupreme. It's 2.43x 10^40 Joules, around small star level (low 4C). Maybe I overestimated the feat

no problem. its still impressive. i havent even begun to take into account that it were the shockwave instead of a direct clash. since i was lazy. this should have boosted the result further.

however its not reaching solar system tier thats for sure

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

umm

actually mass of earth is 5.972*10^24 kg

energy for annhilation = mass x (c^2) = 5.3748*10^41 J

BUT

the energy of binding nucleus <<< total mass energy of atom

so energy to atomize planet <<< 5.4 x 10^41 J

so thats why I estimated large planet to dwarf star lvl

 

[Soul01]

lmao i am dying
after 3 years ofno shaving

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

lmao i am dying
after 3 years ofno shaving

• after movember

 

[RavenSupreme]

different approach. nearly same result. i havent used mass but cubic meters

works with mass as well but does not change the small star result. i prefered cubic since i could easily convert it with water/non water values

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

different approach. nearly same result. i havent used mass but cubic meters
works with mass as well but does not change the small star result. i prefered cubic since i could easily convert it with water/non water values

well, i just googled mass of earth as a near exact value from google, going by cubic route takes too many assumptions and doesnt account for the much more massive innard components of earth

 

[RavenSupreme]

If really requested we could create a specific "complete earth atomic annihilation" calf which takes all the different layers, densities etc. into account as reference calc for the future

Actually this would be good for many other cases as well (how to calc a cone shaped hole, calc speed feat X with values y etc.)

So everyone can quickly use the "sample" formulas for their own calculation

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

If really requested we could create a specific "complete earth atomic annihilation" calf which takes all the different layers, densities etc. into account as reference calc for the future
Actually this would be good for many other cases as well (how to calc a cone shaped hole, calc speed feat X with values y etc.)

So everyone can quickly use the "sample" formulas for their own calculation

bruh

idk if thats needed, but if u wanna calc it, then just look up tables for atomic ttraction in the nuclie of common elements, and once u accounted for elements that make up 99 percent of earth mass, you can calc the binding energy of the atoms for atomization

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Goku and vegeta with beards lol.Seems goku will go normal ssj against botamo

 

[TakatoBlue]

Goku DBSuper ssj1 confirmed

Ssj1 confirmed

 

[Soul01]

yep goku went normal ssj

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

any feats/ statements in this episode?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

any feats/ statements in this episode?

No it was just the same as the manga.I dont think there will be anything notable from this tournament anyway unless something unexpected happens like somone interrupts it.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

so i wont wait for the subs then

 

[TakatoBlue]

Whis disintegrated parts of the place of the tournament and replaced by others. Botamo resistance in the preview was apparently able to tank Goku's (Ssj) attacks effortlessly .

Monaka tanked a punch in the face ... (from Goku)...

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

Goku and vegeta with beards lol.Seems goku will go normal ssj against botamo

I see. That means Goku did absorb the God ki in his super saiyan form (as we saw in ep 14).

I wonder what's the gap between current SSJ and SSB. What do you think?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Whis disintegrated parts of the place of the tournament and replaced by others. Botamo resistance in the preview was apparently able to tank Goku's (Ssj) attacks effortlessly .Monaka tanked a punch in the face ... (from Goku)...

Yea whis did make the tournament disintegrate and make new ones so matter manipulation but we knew he could do that already since vados can do that.

 

[Shock97]

Whis disintegrated parts of the place of the tournament and replaced by others. Botamo resistance in the preview was apparently able to tank Goku's (Ssj) attacks effortlessly .
Monaka tanked a punch in the face ... (from Goku)...

So it looks like Whis and most likely Vados can also destroy matter.