Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 37

[DodoNova2]

Who thinks 3-A Krilin has the end of the tournament?

 

[Dark649]

Maybe, but one thing is sure that Krillin will die again just like Dragon Ball, Z and GT.

 

[DodoNova2]

This is his destiny

 

[Gr8Gr3yM]

Does anyone find suspicious the fact that the arena for the tournament is taking any amount of time to be made? I think it is very fishy.

What instantly comes to my mind is that in reality the "arena" is some kind power siphoning device, one more reason not to kill opponents, suck every little bit of energy released.

 

[Ssr4vegito]

shin should use his time ring to go to the future and bring back Trunks

 

[Derpmaster9000]

As gokus team leave one member short for the tournament a person appears and that person is........... JOHN CEEENNNNNAAAAAA!!!

 

[Omega998]

Went i think it again i guess we get/got troll so hard From opening we saw buu as ten member well it jist because friza thing we ignore about opening(or what i call not sure. Bad english)

 

[AppleLord]

Frieza is gonna surpass Krillin's death counts.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

You know what's a major plot hole? What the hell ever happened to the Future Grand Priest? You might think "well obviously he died" but then how did the Future Guards of Zeno survive? Either the Guards are more powerful/durable than Grand Priest, or the Future Grand Priest is still alive. Or maybe there's only one Grand Priest above all timelines and he's 2-A.

 

[FTW395]

@MeleeniumRXJ how is it a major plothole when you've just given 2 very reasonable explanations to it.

 

[Nibbler3100]

I'm nearly 99.99% sure that the Super Dragon Balls are going to be used to wish back every person/universe that was erased from existence and Universe 7 will probably do it

 

[Ryukama]

Actual answer, it's yet another oversight.

Headcanon, the guards were in Zen'ō's palace which is beyond the rest of the timeline. Daishinkan wasn't and died.

Also sorry, but 2-A Daishinkan is almost certainly not a thing. At best he's probably just acausual if there's only one of him and he didn't die.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

@MeleeniumRXJ how is it a major plothole when you've just given 2 very reasonable explanations to it.

It's a possible major plothole because I'm doubtful Toei will use/think of the explanations I gave. I also doubt the Guards are more powerful than Grand Priest.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

Actual answer, it's yet another oversight.
Headcanon, the guards were in Zen'ō's palace which is beyond the rest of the timeline. Daishinkan wasn't and died.

Also sorry, but 2-A Daishinkan is almost certainly not a thing. At best he's probably just acausual if there's only one of him and he didn't die.

It makes me wonder if Future Grand Priest knew about Black and Zamasu's activity and was trying to do something about it. Maybe he was in favor of Zamasu's plans

 

[Ryukama]

Daishinkan certainly doesn't seem to have an issue with killing Gods of Destruction and destroying their universes. So I guess it's possible he didn't mind Zamasu's plans.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I thought of another explanation. Maybe he's alive but inactive. Maybe he becomes inactive if all GoD and Kaioshin die, and/or if all other Angels become inactive.

 

[Sigma_the_Terminator_of_Purple_Monsters]

where someone got this img?

 

[Beerus1000]

Actual answer, it's yet another oversight.
Headcanon, the guards were in Zen'ō's palace which is beyond the rest of the timeline. Daishinkan wasn't and died.

Also sorry, but 2-A Daishinkan is almost certainly not a thing. At best he's probably just acausual if there's only one of him and he didn't die.

if there is only 1 grandpriest that means he is beyond time and space

 

[Ryukama]

You're not 2-A or "beyond time and space" simply for being acasual.

If there's only one Daishinkan, we're not remotely going to rate him as able to destroy infinite universes or above for that alone.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

If we Bump Daishinkan to 2-A because he is acausal then we would have to upgrade Goku Black and Zamasu to 2-A for being Acasual via the time ring which would then be a 2-A artifact.....


Which is clearly not the case.

 

[Golden_Void]

Well the Zeno button is a 2-C artifact via summoning Zeno so (;

 

[Jeune_fou]

Does anyone find suspicious the fact that the arena for the tournament is taking any amount of time to be made? I think it is very fishy.
What instantly comes to my mind is that in reality the "arena" is some kind power siphoning device, one more reason not to kill opponents, suck every little bit of energy released.

I totally agree + look at his head when he talked about the arena http://images.autoworldnews.com/dat...on-ball-super-full-episode-81-english-sub.png

Also I suspect he prefered a battle royal to weaken all 80 fighters at the same time and not two per two (someone would notice something).

 

[Ryukama]

Why would the Zen'ōs and Daishinkan need or want to absorb the energy of weak mortal fighters?

 

[Ssr4vegito]

I got a stupid theory Daishinkan absorbs the energy from the fighters kills zeno then Goku attains a new ss form kills daishinkan

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@Unite my rice Yeah soo??? The Zeno button being 2-C is fine but if we Bump up Daishinkan for supposedly being acausal to 2-A then the Time ring would have to be 2-A as well and that would make Goku Black and Zamasu 2-A


If that's the case then Merged Zamasu would have curbstomped both Zeno and Vegito Blue to oblivion.

 

[Jeune_fou]

I got a stupid theory Daishinkan absorbs the energy from the fighters kills zeno then Goku attains a new ss form kills daishinka

Exactly what I had in mind (more or less), the daishinkan is most likely ploting something

 

[FTW395]

@Unite my rice Yeah soo??? The Zeno button being 2-C is fine but if we Bump up Daishinkan for supposedly being acausal to 2-A then the Time ring would have to be 2-A as well and that would make Goku Black and Zamasu 2-A

If that's the case then Merged Zamasu would have curbstomped both Zeno and Vegito Blue to oblivion.

No that would've just made Zeno and Vegito Blue 2-A as well. I hate it when people apply logic from this site to a fictional story, the fictional story doesn't give a rats ass about the logic this site uses.

 

[Ryukama]

@All Again, what reason would Daishinkan have to want to steal these weak mortal fighters' energy?

@FTW It doesn't matter if the story doesn't care about what logic the site uses. Acausality =/= destroying infinite universes. Daishinkan is not going to be rated as 2-A. Especially when we don't even know if he's actually acausual or not.

 

[FTW395]

@Ryukama that's not what I meant. By all means I'm not pro-2-A Daishinkan I just get annoyed when people say something can't happen, because it doesn't follow this site's logic. Mainly in tier related stuff.

 

[Ryukama]

Alright then. I understand and can agree with that.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I think people twisted around what was said. It was proposed that Daishinkan could be 2-A because there may be only one of him across all timelines. Someone responded with "we can't make him 2-A for being acausal, because that would make Zamasu 2-A" except Zamasu wasn't above all timelines and there were multiple versions of him.

 

[Ryukama]

It was proposed that Daishinkan could be 2-A because there may be only one of him across all timelines.

That's only acausality though.

Yeah maybe Daishinkan's acausality would be different than Zamasu's, but neither equate to destroying infinite universes.

Unless it's explict that Daishinkan entirely transcends/is infinitely greater than all timelines, then he isn't becoming 2-A. There's no proposal to be made for now. Especially since even the acasuality is still an assumption.

 

[SITHISIT]

I watched the scene with Frieza and Goku.

Personally the execution was just PERFECT. Was expecting some shitty talk writing thing as toei usually does, but actually no. Goku acting so malevolent and him making that deal with Frieza + the color and lighting was just amazing.

Best scene in super so far.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I liked how intellegent Goku seemed in that scene, seeing right through Frieza's bullshit and calling his bluff. People really underestimate Goku's intelligence outside of fighting.

 

[Shock97]

I was actually shocked at the maturity and intelligence of Goku during that scene. See it's not so hard to write him like that ALL the time, they just choose not to for some reason.

 

[SITHISIT]

I was actually shocked at the maturity and intelligence of Goku during that scene. See it's not so hard to write him like that ALL the time, they just choose not to for some reason.

A good reasoning behind Goku's new attitude is because I think Black's lust for power and the foresight of Limitless potential and for more started to rub off on him

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I was actually shocked at the maturity and intelligence of Goku during that scene. See it's not so hard to write him like that ALL the time, they just choose not to for some reason.

It's because Goku just doesn't act like that all the time only when things are serious and he knows the time for happy-go-lucky has past

 

[Ssr4vegito]

That Frieza transformation was epic

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Yeah it was awesome. It hit home the fact that Frieza is one of the most powerful fighters in Universe 7.

 

[Shock97]

I loved those two jabs Goku and Frieza layed into each other.