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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

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I don't support the idea that Zeno doesn't use Ki or even the idea that he doesn't scale to his own feat of erasing the Future timeline. He very clearly is covered by his own energy and the only source of EE we know of in DB is Energy of Destruction, which is just referred to as an extremely pure form of energy by Freeza (something he senses and connects to gods).

The natural conclusion is that Zeno uses his own form of Hakai using destruction energy, which is just fancy God Ki.
 
This thing only works for 4D.

Like, if we were to use wiki logic, Low 2-C, 2-C and 2-A would have no differences, it would be the exact same thing, infinite 4D.

We just don't do it for a reason of "Just because".

But this logic doesn't go to 5D and up.
 
This is the third time that someone has tried to demote Zen'ō by using his erasure of existence which is derived from the energy of destruction, But either way I'm ready for war.
 
It's that we have no reason to assume he uses ki for his attack and even if he does it's hax. Dabura isn't using solar system level spit because it turns ss characters into rocks.
We've seen lesser xters scale to their EE, we've seen EE regulated to a lower level with ki, why would he be any different? He's simply more powerful then anyone else. Even this dabura example, if he can turn SS xters into rocks, that clearly proves his physicals stack up, because they're SS tier too.

Mind you, even hakai has an energy type attack and a non travelling hax attack, JUST like Zeno did with the timeline and the individual universes.

The manga makes this even clearer, note when he erased infinite Zamasu it was an omnidirectional blast rather than each of them individually vanishing with no travelling attack.

Trying to imply Zeno doesn't use ki, needs explicit proof, why one person out of everyone in a universal energy system won't have ki
 
I don't know, we have enough votes for this and permission.

I just think that the person who should apply things to DBH should be Vietthai96 since it seems like he is the guy who is most in the know about DBH.
The only changes to be applied are to the AP ratings and very few minor things
 
I can't believe you guys just changed Zeno's level and the characters without changing anything else.

You shouldn't have edited it like that.

It sucks to have the Low 1-C there, but with that justification.
Attack Potency: Low Complex Multiverse level (Whis stated that Zen'ō could easily erase the entire multiverse if he so wished,[3] as did Beerus,[4] and Future Zen'ō effortlessly erased everything, including all 12 universes and Infinite Zamasu with a single ki blast. Should be capable of erasing 18 universes. Each universe consists of 3 universe sized space-times)
 
What the **** is that. Why is he so weak. What the **** for 1-C Presence??? In the past he was equal to TOAA. But now TOAA is tier 1....Not even 0.
 
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