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Dragon Ball Super Discussion LXXX

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I mean you gotta remember Broly is relative to UI and technically all we know is that Broly is stronger than ssj Gogeta.
 
Broly is stronger than Beerus, but SSB Gogeta was literally toying with Broly. However, Broly does have potential to be much stronger much later on yes.
 
Isn't that a double standard? Why would you assume that base Broly is only beyond ssj but assume lssj Broly is ssg Gogeta level wtf?
 
We assume Broly is SSG Gogeta level as he forced Gogeta to use SSB. If he had the option to use other forms he would've done so, such as merely using SSJ against Janemba despite being capable of using SSJ3. Especially considering the time limit involved with using their full power... The fusion doesn't go all put unless neccessary.

I would say that going from Super Saiyan to SSG ... I would say Brolys power is actuay in the relative ballpark as SSJ2 Vegeta, if not a hypothetical SSJ3 Vegeta.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Isn't that a double standard? Why would you assume that base Broly is only beyond ssj but assume lssj Broly is ssg Gogeta level wtf?
Because LSSJ Broly tanked attacks from SSB Gogeta but base Broly got one shotted by casual SSG Vegeta?
 
If he went straight to SSJG, then that means Broly is > SSJ Vegeta but weaker than SSJG. Which is what Zero is saying.
 
If base Broly is so fodder to casual ssg Vegeta then why go ssg at all? It's very likely that base Broly either matched or surpassed ssj2 Vegeta.
 
Because Vegeta doesn't take chances.

Not to mention it could just be that Broly would evolve to counter SSJ2 even if Broly was outmatched.

Like he did everytime he fought someone.
 
Vegeta did take a chance when he let Cell go perfect form.
 
Vegeta had gone through a bit of character development since then DDM. Not to mention they explicitly said he's not taking chances.

@Zamasu Chan SSJB is overkill at that point lol.
 
ZERO7772 said:
We already went over this. Some people claims that SSJ Broly is taken from his base power and not stacked on the top of Iakri making him only 5x time stronger than SSB instead of 50x time. Hence the power ups
Base= 1

Ikari= 10

SSJ= 50
His Ikari is obviously not 10x as he went from somewhere above SSJ level to SSB level.

And yes we already went over this on a thread where it was decided that his SSJ is clearly stacked upon his Ikari. He has his Ikari aura, Ikari eyes, Ikari body, Ikari personality, etc etc as a Super Saiyan.
 
The general believe is that he kept powering up due to his insane adaptation even after his ikari form. In the end what makes Broly dangerous is not transformations but his adaptation.

But yeah I agree, we saw him goes SS WHILE in Ikari and he kept his body mass and aura so yeah.
 
The gap from above SSJ to SSG is still a huge one, not just 10x. And it could be said that his Ikari form grew stronger to its full potential and reached a limit against SSB.
 
AKM sama said:
The gap from above SSJ to SSG is still a huge one, not just 10x. And it could be said that his Ikari form grew stronger to its full potential and reached a limit against SSB.
How huge?
 
How huge?

No one knows. But the broly novel describes it as being in a totally different realm of power from ssj.
 
I hope that galactic patrol suit helps them survive in space.
 
You have to love how Goku and Vegeta can blow up the universe but can't survive in space. It's like you can vaporize an ocean but dies if you fall into it because you can't swim~
 
During the time when the movies Battle of God and Fukatsu in F were released before Dragon Ball Super existed, did this site have profiles based on the characters in these two movies? If so, what tier were they?
 
The characters were still tier 4-B back in 2015 before DBS came out and changed everything in the first arc.
 
Honestly the whole "can't breath in space shit is one of the dumbest weakness"for guys like goku and vegeta at this point and makes God Ki look more pointless then before. Freeza,Frost,Hit,Buu,Cell,jiren and the Gods can survive it just fine yet somehow goku and vegeta don't develop some way to or at least be able to for a limited amount of time? Just stupid.
 
I don't understand why would God Ki have anything to do with surviving in space.

Freeza and Frost are part of the same race (kinda) which is unnusually sturdy. Buu doesn't care about normal bodily functions and I doubt Cell does. Jiren and Hit are aliens species as well, not to mention none of these people have God Ki.

We already get battles in featureless islands and deserts a lot, why also in featureless empty space?
 
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