Dragon Ball LS upgrade (and possible 21st Budokai AP upgrade)

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I can created this calc here and found out that Goku pre-training has Class 25+ (418328.29786 N) lifting strength and post training Goku has Class K (5225042.605857 N) lifting strength, therefore I propose for Goku's lifitng strength:

Lifting Strength: at least Class 5 (Lifted and throwed Bulma's Car) likely Class 25+ , at least Class 100 as an Oozaru | Class K+ (Easily moved a large rock), higher as an Oozaru | At least Class K | At least Class K, likely higher | Unknown

Now even though we don't exactly use LS for AP, I think in this context it can be used because the author is trying to show how much stronger Goku has gotten since the beggining of Roshi's training

The LS difference between the two boulders is 14.5133216x and with BoS Goku's AP at 0.01158654467900690696 Tons of TNT, this means that 21st Budokai Goku is 0.1681592492 Tons of TNT (9-A+)

My personal suggestion for the 21st Budokai key would be:

At least Small Building level+, possibly higher (Had become 12.4902 times stronger based on lifting strength), Large Building level as an Oozaru

What do you think?

 

[Spinoirr]

Fallowing

 

[Vizer04]

Following

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The boulder actually has another important detail, getting the mass of the boulder is step one, but then you also would need to use the F = MA formula for pushing/pulling feats as opposed to lifting the entire boulder. Though you also do need to add friction, which from what Ugarik said on the Resident Evil feat, it would be 0.45 for rocks/boulders shaped like that. But multiplying it by 0.45 should still net you Class K results. Might need to add that in the blog though.

But looks good besides that point.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

@DarkDragonMedeus should I use anime for time frame?

 

[Veronica]

Author statement of Goku struggling with 40 ton>>>fan calc.

 

[sanicspood]

wasnt even an author statement

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The LS difference between the two boulders is 25.1370336x and with BoS Goku's AP at 0.014125312 Tons of TNT, this means that 21st Budokai Goku is 0.355068442376 Tons of TNT (8-C)

No.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Author statement of Goku struggling with 40 ton>>>fan calc.

Inconsistency

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

@DarkDragonMedeus I made the changes based upon your suggestions, and looks like Goku got 12.490292x stronger, not 25.1370336x, he would be then 0.1764292 Tons of TNT

 

[Nullflowerblush]

That is, like, the definition of Calc Stalking.

Character A has a certain attack potency through a calculation. They made a 1mm dent in character B's shield composed of a fictional material. But character C destroyed the whole 30mm thick shield, so character C is thirty times as strong as character A.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

It's the same character though, and don't we always multiply the AP of different characters in verses debates to see if they stomp or not?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It looks good now, and I personally think using the Anime timeframe to get acceleration and likely a slightly higher result seems okay.

 

[KLOL506]

The boulder actually has another important detail, getting the mass of the boulder is step one, but then you also would need to use the F = MA formula for pushing/pulling feats as opposed to lifting the entire boulder. Though you also do need to add friction, which from what Ugarik said on the Resident Evil feat, it would be 0.45 for rocks/boulders shaped like that. But multiplying it by 0.45 should still net you Class K results. Might need to add that in the blog though.

But looks good besides that point.

Co-efficient is actually 0.525 which he found out from the previous calc and already added.

Also I'm not sure if we should use F = MA for pushing/pulling feats, wouldn't they just use friction coefficient?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The two things could be added together, similar to Leon S Kennedy's calculation. That's what Ugarik did on my blog iirc.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

@DarkDragonMedeus what does KLOL mean?

 

[KLOL506]

@DarkDragonMedeus what does KLOL mean?

Nothing much, just that instead of using 0.45 you could've just stuck with the 0.525 you previously used.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Okay, I fixed it back to 0.525

 

[KLOL506]

Bump

Calc is still good BTW.

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I realized I screwed up with the bear calc, so I had to redo it, might maybe considering giving the ls calcs the same treatment

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

The page for Kid Goku has been unlocked until we can come to an agreement on this thread