Dragon Ball Low 1-C upgrade

[Greenshifter]

The whole point of Tier 2 now is that it's all Infinite 4-D, Low 2-C to 2-A is all Infinite 4-D. So a statement about it being Infinite even if explicit would still just mean its within that range. 2-A can only really be proven with explicit statements of containing Infinite universes

Where’s the thread for like any of that? If it’s all infinite 4D I’ll just biject the amount of space-time available to infinite universes.

 

[Omegas03]

Bro when are we stopping

 

[ShionAH]

Bro if this gets through they will be able to fight Uncle Grandpa and not get stomped

 

[Greenshifter]

time dimension are infinite by default, hence thats how 3-D spaces with time dimension becomes 4-D.

Sitll agree though so i can pit DB character against tier 1 characters

You’re thinking about the uncountably infinite snapshots. Which would be true for 1 second of time. I’m talking about infinite seconds here.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Bro if this gets through they will be able to fight Uncle Grandpa and not get stomped

not Uncle Grandpa

 

[ShionAH]

not Uncle Grandpa

Bro I am cooking UG and its true he is Low 1-C

 

[NHTkenshin2]

They'll never change! Ever since they were 9, always the same! Couldn't keep their hands out of the CRTs! But not our fandom! Couldn't be precious DB fandom! What a sick joke!

 

[Greenshifter]

Also no more meme’ing or derailing guys, you had your fun, I’m trying to keep this thread under 10 pages.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Bro if this gets through they will be able to fight Uncle Grandpa and not get stomped

Good thing its not going through

 

[ShionAH]

I’m trying to keep this thread under 10 pages.

We both know thats not gonna happen

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Also no more meme’ing guys, I’m trying to keep this thread under 10 pages.

You won't have to worry about that if the thread gets locked

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

You won't have to worry about that if the thread gets locked

cope,mald,seethe

 

[Hasty12345]

if time is a continuum, can't you divide any arbitrary number of segments into an aleph_1 amount of 3D snapshots, essentially allowing you to argue any 4D structure such that time is a continuum 2-A? Do you actually need time to be "infinite" when there's an aleph_1 amount of points between any two numbers (x1, x2)?

 

[Catpija]

Also no more meme’ing or derailing guys, you had your fun, I’m trying to keep this thread under 10 pages.

This is gonna age like milk

 

[Greenshifter]

if time is a continuum, can't you divide any arbitrary number of segments into an aleph_1 amount of 3D snapshots, essentially allowing you to argue any 4D structure such that time is a continuum 2-A? Do you actually need time to be "infinite" when there's an aleph_1 amount of points between any two numbers (x1, x2)?

Nah, you need an aleph0 stacked on top of it. So an aleph0 amount of an aleph1 amount of snapshots.

 

[Matrixxxx]

I don't quite understand how 2a works, can you explain a little better?

 

[Omegabronic]

The part of the cosmology used as the argument was changed in a past thread for the dbs anime at least, so it would only apply to the manga

Dragon ball universe crt

the current calcs for the 3-As in the dbs uses the classic map for the macrocosm to calc the ap and speed of the characters, however there are two problems with this: 1: this map is not consistent with dbs anime's visuals of how universes are, it is consistently shown to not look like the...

vsbattles.com

 

[StekFence]

Sitll agree though so i can pit DB character against tier 1 characters

What do you have against dragon ball characters

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The part of the cosmology used as the argument was changed in a past thread for the dbs anime at least, so it would only apply to the manga

Dragon ball universe crt

the current calcs for the 3-As in the dbs uses the classic map for the macrocosm to calc the ap and speed of the characters, however there are two problems with this: 1: this map is not consistent with dbs anime's visuals of how universes are, it is consistently shown to not look like the...

vsbattles.com

I don't think this will go forward, due to super using the same map, both anime in guide and manga, it's been closed for centuries.

And also Akira toriyama mention that the worlds of the Kaioshins revolve around the outside universe, the anime map is not in scale and is not complete, the complete macrocosm is in the shape of a ball like for about 30 years.

 

[StekFence]

There are 12 2-A-sized universes completely separated from each other, contained within a single timeline. There is no more room across the first 4 dimensions to align these universes and thus a 5th dimension is needed to describe the construct that contains these universes, this construct is a timeline. Thus a single timeline in DB is Low 1-C.

Don’t you have to prove this 5th dimension compeltely trivializes the 4th in order for it to be considered low 1-C?

 

[Hasty12345]

Nah, you need an aleph0 stacked on top of it. So an aleph0 amount of an aleph1 amount of snapshots.

but why? any division of aleph 1 is aleph 1, the assertion you need the "numbers" 1, 2, 3, ... aleph null to exist seems kinda arbitrary given you can have an aleph 1 set between two numbers (x_i, x_j) such that any 2 numbers (y_i, y_j) inside (x_i, x_j) will also have an aleph 1 amount of numbers in between them, so you can indeed create a 4D object from aleph 1 3D snapshots for any 2 numbers and given there's an aleph 1 amount of numbers inbween any 2 numbers you end up with 2-A for destroying any amount of time?

 

[StekFence]

As far as I know, simply containing 2-A structures is just 2-A

 

[Omegabronic]

I don't think this will go forward, due to super using the same map, both anime in guide and manga, it's been closed for centuries.

Not gonna have the argument with you again, that thread got accepted and the map itself has problems pointed in the very thread, please don't derail this one with already accepted changes from another thread

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

As far as I know, simply containing 2-A timelines is just 2-A

This isn't even 2-A lmao

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Not gonna have the argument with you again, that thread got accepted and the map itself has problems pointed in the very thread, please don't derail this one with already accepted changes from another thread

you paused the thread

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Not gonna have the argument with you again, that thread got accepted and the map itself has problems pointed in the very thread, please don't derail this one with already accepted changes from another thread

thread got bunked by the infinite universe thread

 

[StekFence]

Tbh, the argument Used sounds more like infinitely above baseline low 2-C I think. Possibly just low 2-C since I think time is infinite by default

 

[Catpija]

You’re thinking about the uncountably infinite snapshots. Which would be true for 1 second of time. I’m talking about infinite seconds here.

same thing. Also infinite seconds is kind of reaching when you based it on from some statement about a world endlessly revolving.

 

[Omegabronic]

you paused the thread

It was accepted, it was closed because the end result of the calcs is irrelevant now since the universe was accepted as infinite in size, but the proposal itself was accepted

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Hey bro, laughing a lot, Omega wanting to put laws in DB and ended up getting hurt

 

[Omegabronic]

Hey bro, laughing a lot, Omega wanting to put laws in DB and ended up getting hurt

Well the thread got accepted so...

 

[Qawsedf234]

Universe 7 is not 2-A. 2-A is infinite separate space-times, not one space time of infinite length.

There's no standing here for anything being Low 1-C.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Just waiting to see how much time before this gets closed.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Just waiting to see how much time before this gets closed.

Should be right now tbh

 

[Matrixxxx]

I think it should be shut down

 

[Greenshifter]

Don’t you have to prove this 5th dimension compeltely trivializes the 4th in order for it to be considered low 1-C?

Don’t think I need to here due to distance between universes.

 

[Greenshifter]

Universe 7 is not 2-A. 2-A is infinite separate space-times, not one space time of infinite length.

Biject it to infinite space-times of finite proportions then.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Biject it to infinite space-times of finite proportions then.

Bro that ain't it either

 

[Greenshifter]

Bro that ain't it either

Why not? If a verse mentions “infinite space-times”, that’s multi+. it doesn’t need to specificy any of the dimensions are infinite.

 

[Da3ggman]

Yooo he's cookin' (I aint eatin though)