Dragon Ball Game Discussion

[Dagoth_OwO]

I see. I read some guidebook about second part of dark demon realm in Universe Mission and Mechikabira feat is only affected Universe which is not timeline in Arcade.

Ignoring the fact this that quote is just the doc owner's own personal note and not an actual guide statement (the actual guide statement which the doc owner's note is referring to is also a mistranslation btw), it's so horrendously wrong that it's not even funny (we literally visually see alternate universes and timelines inside the black hole lmfao). Also for the record, this doc is not some actual official big guide released by the SDBH owners like the Anniversary Guides for example. It's the doc creator's own personal guide which has some info from some official guides, plus some personal notes & stuff from the doc creator, but is in no way an actual official guide so take stuff from it with a grain of salt

 

[Tripleaccel555]

Ignoring the fact this that quote is just the doc owner's own personal note and not an actual guide statement (the actual guide statement which the doc owner's note is referring to is also a mistranslation btw), it's so horrendously wrong that it's not even funny.

Here the statement.

宇宙を闇に染めあげた暗黒王が、4人 の魔界兵を引き連れて時の巣に襲来!!!果たしてキミは時の巣を護れるか･･･!?

The Dark King, who plunged the universe into darkness, invades the Time Nest with four of his Demon Realm soldiers in tow! Can you protect the Time Nest...?

宇宙を闇に変える最悪の王
The dark king who will turn the universe into darkness.

. かい やみ 世界を闇へと変えたメチあんこくおう しよううん 暗黒王メチカブラ編 「闇の中の死闘編」カブラは、TP最後の砦となった時の巣にも魔の手を伸ばす! 時の巣をまも 守る死闘の中、トランクス:ゼノが、超サイヤ人やくせいゴッドに覚醒する･･･!

The Dark King Mechikabura Arc: "Battle in the Depths of Darkness"

Mechikabura, the Dark King who plunged the world into shadows, extends his sinister influence to the Time Nest, the last stronghold of the Time Patrol! Amid the desperate battle to protect the Time Nest, Trunks: Xeno awakens to the power of Super Saiyan God...!

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

宇宙を闇に染めあげた暗黒王が、4人 の魔界兵を引き連れて時の巣に襲来!!!果たしてキミは時の巣を護れるか･･･!?

The Dark King, who plunged the universe into darkness, invades the Time Nest with four of his Demon Realm soldiers in tow! Can you protect the Time Nest...?

宇宙を闇に変える最悪の王
The dark king who will turn the universe into darkness.

Well duh, of course the universe got plunged into darkness cause Mechi consumed all of time. Of course the universe is gonna be included. Also the second one actually says "all universes" and it's missing one major kanji so a nice mistranslation there lol (Stuff from both Universe 7 & Universe 3 are visually shown inside the black hole too)

. かい やみ 世界を闇へと変えたメチあんこくおう しよううん 暗黒王メチカブラ編 「闇の中の死闘編」カブラは、TP最後の砦となった時の巣にも魔の手を伸ばす! 時の巣をまも 守る死闘の中、トランクス:ゼノが、超サイヤ人やくせいゴッドに覚醒する･･･!

The Dark King Mechikabura Arc: "Battle in the Depths of Darkness"

Mechikabura, the Dark King who plunged the world into shadows, extends his sinister influence to the Time Nest, the last stronghold of the Time Patrol! Amid the desperate battle to protect the Time Nest, Trunks: Xeno awakens to the power of Super Saiyan God...!

Yeah, Mechi consumed the whole world/multiverse, which obviously includes the universe. Context matters

Again, this is ignoring all other context, statement & visual evidence from the actual series which shows alternate universes, timelines & all of time being consumed.

 

[Tripleaccel555]

Also the second one actually says "all universes" and it's missing one major kanji so a nice mistranslation there lol (Stuff from both Universe 7 & Universe 3 are visually shown inside the black hole too)

Arcade don't show of that feat. Your right about lost one of major kanji but that don't change the fact the feat itself is still only universe level.
全宇宙を闇に変える最悪の王= The ultimate king of darkness who transforms the entire universe into darkness.

 

[Shar122]

Arcade don't show of that feat. Your right about lost one of major but that don't change the fact the feat itself is still only universe level.
全宇宙を闇に変える最悪の王= The ultimate king of darkness who transforms the entire universe into darkness.

It's not a universe level feat omg, that's only docs created by a random guy, Chronoa literally stated that absorbed everything, Literally all of time.. And when characters from SDBH talks about histories, they REFER to timelines themselves... And in fiction and in certain context, like gurren lagann, they typically refer to the multiverse as a "universe", that's why

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Déjà vu?

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Arcade don't show of that feat. Your right about lost one of major kanji but that don't change the fact the feat itself is still only universe level.

Wrong, the arcade does actually show the insides of the black hole when the Time Patrol fights the Demon Gods in there, and stuff from Universe 7, 3 & 11 and even the Z movies are shown drifting inside the Chaos Ball. The feat being only universe level is objectively false when stuff from other universes are visually shown in the Chaos Ball even in the arcade itself, and you're still forgetting other statements from the arcade of all of space-time being consumed lol

全宇宙を闇に変える最悪の王= The ultimate king of darkness who transforms the entire universe into darkness.

Actually it translates to = "The ultimate king of darkness who turns all universes into darkness". The quote "全宇宙" can translate to "all universes" which makes a lot more sense contextually when we literally see other universes in the Chaos Ball even in the arcade. This is what happens when you take the notes of a fan (A fan who btw is unironically claiming that Buuhan > Dark King Mechikabura) as 100% fact and ignore every other context in the series lmfao. The visual evidence & additional context even from the arcade alone automatically kills the interpretation of Mechikabura's feat only being universal

 

[Kuntilanak998]

Should the Demon Realm be able to get acasuality type 5 like Madoka Kaname?

Madoka Kaname

Madoka Kaname (鹿目 まどか, Kaname Madoka) is the main protagonist of Puella Magi Madoka Magica. She is a gentle and kind girl who lives a normal life, has a happy life, surrounded by a good family and good friends. One day, she has a dream in which a mysterious girl fights a monster. The next day...

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[Dagoth_OwO]

Should the Demon Realm be able to get a casuality type 5 like Madoka Kaname?

No, the standards for type 5 are extremely strict and the Demon Realm has no proof for those standards

 

[Kuntilanak998]

No

No, the standards for type 5 are extremely strict and the Demon Realm has no proof for those standards

OK, I understand

 

[Vietthai96]

Arcade don't show of that feat. Your right about lost one of major kanji but that don't change the fact the feat itself is still only universe level.
全宇宙を闇に変える最悪の王= The ultimate king of darkness who transforms the entire universe into darkness.

Japan do not have word for multiverse, the term "entire universe" or sometime "all of universe" actually is in fact, the entire cosmology, that mean it true meaning depend on how big the cosmology of the series is, by it self it mean nothing, it could just mean something as big as Earth if the verse cosmology is only that big. Like someone said, TTGL have a infinite 11D multiverse, they still use the term "entire universe", because to that series, the "entire universe" is infinite 11D

Another note, in fact, the developer of Xenoverse literally said in his livestream that the multiverse of Xenoverse and Heroes is Time Patrol Universe, the name Universe being mentioned here yet if we count Xenoverse and Heroes only they already have absurb amount of timelines in both game, so again the term universe in japan is a very nuace term that its meaning is differently depend on contexts and the verse itself

 

[Shar122]

Japan do not have word for multiverse, the term "entire universe" or sometime "all of universe" actually is in fact, the entire cosmology, that mean it true meaning depend on how big the cosmology of the series is, by it self it mean nothing, it could just mean something as big as Earth if the verse cosmology is only that big. Like someone said, TTGL have a infinite 11D multiverse, they still use the term "entire universe", because to that series, the "entire universe" is infinite 11D

Another note, in fact, the developer of Xenoverse literally said in his livestream that the multiverse of Xenoverse and Heroes is Time Patrol Universe, the name Universe being mentioned here yet if we count Xenoverse and Heroes only they already have absurb amount of timelines in both game, so again the term universe in japan is a very nuace term that its meaning is differently depend on contexts and the verse itself

FR, these people try to downplay SDBH so much, it's not even funny, Mechi neg diffs canon Zeno smh.

 

[Tripleaccel555]

Wrong, the arcade does actually show the insides of the black hole when the Time Patrol fights the Demon Gods in there, anod stuff from Universe 7, 3 & 11 and even the Z movies are shown drifting inside the Chaos Ball. The feat being only universe level is objectively false when stuff from other universes are visually shown in the Chaos Ball even in the arcade itself, andi you're still forgetting other statements from the arcade of all of space-time being consumed lol

I see.
Looks like i skip some importand part . sThanks for bringing the statement. The issue with dbh profile is you guys mixed with manga.Arcade is more canon compare to manga. The latter is secondary source meamwhile the former is canon version. @Dagoth_OwO @Vietthai96

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Looks like i skip some importand part . Thanks for bringing the statement.

No problemo

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

The issue with dbh profile is you guys mixed with manga.Arcade is more canon compare to manga. The latter is secondary source meamwhile the former is main version.

I mean yeah, we've already acknowledged this. Arcade is the main canon while the manga is extended canon (This is also noted and explained in the cosmology page note section in case you're confused)

 

[Hasty12345]

Japan do not have word for multiverse, the term "entire universe" or sometime "all of universe" actually is in fact, the entire cosmology, that mean it true meaning depend on how big the cosmology of the series is, by it self it mean nothing, it could just mean something as big as Earth if the verse cosmology is only that big. Like someone said, TTGL have a infinite 11D multiverse, they still use the term "entire universe", because to that series, the "entire universe" is infinite 11D

Another note, in fact, the developer of Xenoverse literally said in his livestream that the multiverse of Xenoverse and Heroes is Time Patrol Universe, the name Universe being mentioned here yet if we count Xenoverse and Heroes only they already have absurb amount of timelines in both game, so again the term universe in japan is a very nuace term that its meaning is differently depend on contexts and the verse itself

multiverse - Jisho.org

jisho.org

 

[Vietthai96]

multiverse - Jisho.org

jisho.org

the 1st word is Japanese broken way of speaking Multiverse in english which is Maruchibāsu, they didn't have L and V in their speech so eh

the 2nd word is include the word Universe (宇宙), the first two words is 多元 which again combine with the last two, again very very context based, it could mean multi universes, or multi dimensional universe, but again 宇宙 can mean universe at the same time just mean outer space

the 3rd one is just the 2rd one plus 論 mean either logical, or theory, or whatever it is depend on context

So only the 1st one could be solid multiverse term, but it is actually just the direct term Multiverse, spoken in a very broken english which we see every day in anime where character start throw around the name of their attack, and their attacks have english name which again depend on the context. Like Vegeta scream Big Bang Attack but it isn't actual Big Bang