Downgrading Killer Peter once again and debunking some calcs

[FragrantJaguar150]

Not shown not happened, again on what and ifs scaling doesn't work like it needs evidence


Yeah because you are saying she has reaction speed of 256 kmph but she can't dodge or block someone who is life threatening and wants to ends her with lethal attacks is dashing at same speed, so tell me does this make sense to you?

Yeah I was baffled to when you said hitting on legs = Trying to escape that's why I had to show that panel

Yeah, Thaddeus hitting an opponent's shoe level is unnecessary. Yeah, then explain This ? We clearly see Thaddeus hitting his ankle. Nuh uh, Thaddeus was on the same level as Philip in a panel earlier, so you can avoid using height difference too and he wasn't even serious in this panel. He got serious afterwards when Philip pulled flare bombs and he was partially deaf. So tell me, was Philip trying to escape Thaddeus too?
Because contextually the situation is similar. Thaddeus is above in speed tiers. Both opponents couldn't land a single hit. Both got hit on ankle level while one is standing and the other is fleeing, on the assumption of yours which has no evidence yet to back up.



Are you really nitpicking over special effects?
Okay buddy, by your logic, she shouldn't have working legs either, right? Since those also got "noodled"? But here she is, standing properly. To add to that, we can clearly see her legs moving with that effect below her skate. So yeah, there goes your other argument. It's dismantled, because if her legs got twisted yet they still work, then her arms should too. Also, her arms shouldn't have even stayed still like in this panel it should be dangling if we go by SPECIAL EFFECTS injury of yours. So yeah, her not blocking is because she doesn't have reaction speed of 256 kmph, not because you're assuming her arms were broken is literally staging fire on your own argument by that logic her legs should have broken too, meaning she can't run or escape which you CLAIMED

My points are getting ignored here.

I have given enough reasoning to why she couldn't block and why that would be the least she would want to do.
And dodging is something you should know to be impossible if someone has higher combat and reaction speed but
She would have tried it anyways since blocking was never an option.

I am still baffled how you didn't get my point (not trying to be rude)
I never said hitting the legs would show she was trying to escape. You entertained it yourself not me.

You are wrong here because you are using a panel where thaddues was in the air. He could have easily reached Philips who is a very large target and finally landed unlike skadi who is a smaller target plus thaddues was charging at her. You showed the panel where thaddues was launched in the air.
Which would give thaddues more room to work with and have a clear attacking field. The fact that you say same level while showing thaddues has Ariel placement above Philips and for a person like thaddues who specializes in agility, speed and maneuver is really something to consider here.
WHY would thaddues not be serious against Philips ? My big money question now is this. Philips is not just any apostle which should already hold more weight then against skadi but THE right-hand man of Raphael and also glory has evaluated the jenzards at A+ ranking.
They are still below an average apostle.
Philips is easily a top tier apostle if not the current strongest and smartest in glory. There isn't a single reasoning to why Thaddeus would hold back against a person like that.
I have a logical assumption to why skadi was trying to dodge or evade and you have done everything BUT counter my point .
Skadi is in the air and thaddues would have no reason to hit her legs more importantly bend down to her shoe level if both of them were in ground from the start.
Sometimes as I said before. If something is obvious then why you really don't need it to be shown in a panel.

You missed a crucial point here. I never said her arms didn't work.
The special effects show that it has done significant damage to her limbs
You helped me here aswell. If it wasn't serious damage then why not show the same effects on the Philips panel ?
Even if you get injured sometimes you still have the power to keep on continuing but not on the same level you would expect especially if you are planning on defending an attack that would make you feel not so good in healthy phase and specially not when you conceded significant injury to your arms. Dodging or evading would be more better here which she failed and that is on her overall speed failing not that she was below 256 km/hr.

 

[Sigmagoon14]

My points are getting ignored here.

Nope those are already argued and dismantled, I don't think I ignored anything

I have given enough reasoning to why she couldn't block and why that would be the least she would want to do.
And dodging is something you should know to be impossible if someone has higher combat and reaction speed but
She would have tried it anyways since blocking was never an option.

Yeah which doesn't make sense cause if she has reaction speed of 256 kmph which you claimed then she could have seen Thaddeus coming at her so even if Thaddeus C/S she knows Thaddeus is coming at her to attack, so normal fighter would block

I am still baffled how you didn't get my point (not trying to be rude)
I never said hitting the legs would show she was trying to escape. You entertained it yourself not me.

Why would skadi be in air? Give me the reasons. Sometimes the obvious overrides and this is the case. Anything could have happened here and you have no proof to say otherwise. If you say what proof do I have ? Skadi is in air and thaddues wouldn't have hit her legs if it was the result of his attack or if she was on her initial position

Didn't you claimed she was in air because she was trying to escape and that's why Thaddeus struck her legs?
Why are you spinning the argument in circle?

You are wrong here because you are using a panel where thaddues was in the air. He could have easily reached Philips who is a very large target and finally landed unlike skadi who is a smaller target plus thaddues was charging at her. You showed the panel where thaddues was launched in the air.
Which would give thaddues more room to work with and have a clear attacking field. The fact that you say same level while showing thaddues has Ariel placement above Philips and for a person like thaddues who specializes in agility, speed and maneuver is really something to consider here.

Yet he bend down to hit on his ankle and btw it was right step which was further away from Thaddeus, so I don't understand how it's not same? When Thaddeus again hitting on ankle and thank you for adding up new point Thaddeus was bending down on crouching level meaning he struck her ankles too

WHY would thaddues not be serious against Philips ? My big money question now is this. Philips is not just any apostle which should already hold more weight then against skadi but THE right-hand man of Raphael and also glory has evaluated the jenzards at A+ ranking.
They are still below an average apostle.
Philips is easily a top tier apostle if not the current strongest and smartest in glory. There isn't a single reasoning to why Thaddeus would hold back against a person like that.

Thaddeus was literally cocky saying Philip isn't going to hit him and it's impossible for Philip to even defeat him and btw he didn't even used any named techniques against Philip which backs it up more, so I don't think he was serious when he was cocky and didn't used any nammed technique

I have a logical assumption to why skadi was trying to dodge or evade and you have done everything BUT counter my point .
Skadi is in the air and thaddues would have no reason to hit her legs more importantly bend down to her shoe level if both of them were in ground from the start.
Sometimes as I said before. If something is obvious then why you really don't need it to be shown in a panel.

Again not shown not happened, I already countered that point multiple times which you ignored and your argument didn't even justify how she can't block lethal attacks

You missed a crucial point here. I never said her arms didn't work.
The special effects show that it has done significant damage to her limbs
You helped me here aswell. If it wasn't serious damage then why not show the same effects on the Philips panel ?

The nit picking strikes again, maybe because the Philip fight happened in S1 and Skadi fight was in S2, difference between special effects has changed

Even if you get injured sometimes you still have the power to keep on continuing but not on the same level you would expect especially if you are planning on defending an attack that would make you feel not so good in healthy phase and specially not when you conceded significant injury to your arms.

No evidence of her being injured other than special effect panel which it self gets debunked by next panel I provided

Dodging or evading would be more better here which she failed and that is on her overall speed failing not that she was below 256 km/hr.

Again not making sense cause if she knew she can't outrun Thaddeus and she can't even dodge his attack, so last option is blocking the hits reduce impacts even her arms were allegedly injured, any person would choose sacrifice it's arms to take hits that would kill them
Which you seem to ignore throughout our conversation

 

[FragrantJaguar150]

Nope those are already argued and dismantled, I don't think I ignored anything

Yeah which doesn't make sense cause if she has reaction speed of 256 kmph which you claimed then she could have seen Thaddeus coming at her so even if Thaddeus C/S she knows Thaddeus is coming at her to attack, so normal fighter would block


Why would skadi be in air? Give me the reasons. Sometimes the obvious overrides and this is the case. Anything could have happened here and you have no proof to say otherwise. If you say what proof do I have ? Skadi is in air and thaddues wouldn't have hit her legs if it was the result of his attack or if she was on her initial position

Didn't you claimed she was in air because she was trying to escape and that's why Thaddeus struck her legs?
Why are you spinning the argument in circle?


Yet he bend down to hit on his ankle and btw it was right step which was further away from Thaddeus, so I don't understand how it's not same? When Thaddeus again hitting on ankle and thank you for adding up new point Thaddeus was bending down on crouching level meaning he struck her ankles too


Thaddeus was literally cocky saying Philip isn't going to hit him and it's impossible for Philip to even defeat him and btw he didn't even used any named techniques against Philip which backs it up more, so I don't think he was serious when he was cocky and didn't used any nammed technique


Again mot shown not happened, I already countered that point multiple times which you ignored and your argument didn't even justify how she can't block


The nit picking strikes again, maybe because the Philip fight happened in S1 and Skadi fight was in S2, difference between special effects has changed

No evidence of her being injured other than special effect panel which it self gets debunked by next panel I provided

Again not making sense cause if she knew she can't outrun Thaddeus and she can't even dodge his attack, so last option is blocking the hits reduce impacts even her arms were allegedly injured, any person would choose sacrifice it's arms to take hits that would kill them
Which you seem to ignore throughout our conversation

You didn't dismantle anything.


I have explained this many times over and over again.
Why blocking would be much more worse . You are not even trying to counter it at this point.
"Normal fighter" would block but someone who knows that the attack would do damage on the level that the fighter themselves acknowledge that " I would get torn apart" . I am getting tired from trying to explain the same thing for u to ignore it again.


The link doesn't work and " spinning the argument". I have mentioned above in the beginning of our conversation asking you to understand my points before replying.
I was answering to why she would be in air as to resolve the arrows of " claim" you would throw at me but I guess you didn't really understand what I had to say.

Do you understand what I am saying?
Thaddues was in air and he could have easily had more room to hit Philips.
This is getting very tiresome to explain something this simple here.
If someone is capable of changing paths mid air or pull out skill full maneuvers like thaddues then it isn't impossible or hard for the person to pull something out like that.
Skadi and thaddues were both on ground hence this room to maneuver and traget every part which would mean that Thaddeus hitting at her shoe level is VERY hard to justify.

But from the point I am raising then skadi tried to evade but thaddues having the speed advantage was able to hit her. Which would make reaching her legs and other parts way more realistic then the part of skadi just standing there.

"Nit picking" you know that your claims are baseless here?
S1 and S2 art are different BUT what proof do you have that the effect was not done to show that significant damage was done and art was different here in this showing.
This is the part where I get ignored don't I?
I have told already to why she could still try to dodge and evade. You are simply ignoring it

Again,
You are ignoring everything I said . Ignorance is bliss ,isn't it?
By this time wouldn't she already know that even if she tries to block thaddues is definitely getting around that?
AlSO , it would be much better to try to kill that momentum thaddues gained with boosted his AP by dodging rather then tanking it.

 

[Sigmagoon14]

You didn't dismantle anything

Just like you didn't proved anything or when you claimed internal monologue as reaction?

I have explained this many times over and over again.
Why blocking would be much more worse . You are not even trying to counter it at this point.
"Normal fighter" would block but someone who knows that the attack would do damage on the level that the fighter themselves acknowledge that " I would get torn apart" . I am getting tired from trying to explain the same thing for u to ignore it again

Ignore? Buddy are you sure? Cause I countered if she knew the attacks are going to be lethal then why she didn't blocked it? Was she wanted die by getting all the impact?

The link doesn't work and " spinning the argument". I have mentioned above in the beginning of our conversation asking you to understand my points before replying.
I was answering to why she would be in air as to resolve the arrows of " claim" you would throw at me but I guess you didn't really understand what I had to say.

I already did and I already replied it back which you seem to ignore and stuck to your own what if scenario initially you said she was in air because she was trying escape that's why Thaddeus struck her legs

Do you understand what I am saying?
Thaddues was in air and he could have easily had more room to hit Philips.
This is getting very tiresome to explain something this simple here.
If someone is capable of changing paths mid air or pull out skill full maneuvers like thaddues then it isn't impossible or hard for the person to pull something out like that.
Skadi and thaddues were both on ground hence this room to maneuver and traget every part which would mean that Thaddeus hitting at her shoe level is VERY hard to justify.

Are you understanding your own words? Thaddeus was running around he could have hit anywhere on Skadi even in after math we see him crouching too which you

But from the point I am raising then skadi tried to evade but thaddues having the speed advantage was able to hit her. Which would make reaching her legs and other parts way more realistic then the part of skadi just standing there.

again ignoring the part where Thaddeus himself is on ground level while crouching which you again ignored and Skadi and Thaddeus doesn't have vast height difference, so him hitting her legs isn't big deal and it still nothing proves she trying to escape

"Nit picking" you know that your claims are baseless here?
S1 and S2 art are different BUT what proof do you have that the effect was not done to show that significant damage was done and art was different here in this showing.

What proof you have that she took damage on her arms? Other than that panel of special effects cause i already countered this cause in next panel she was standing alright which you again claimed she was injured there too but again assumption and speculation

This is the part where I get ignored don't I?
I have told already to why she could still try to dodge and evade. You are simply ignoring it

Nope chill I am not you, like you ignored the part where I said Thaddeus himself was crouching on ground so him hitting her legs and ankles isn't crazy cause he was dashing while crouching which you really ignored
Also what imaginary demons are you fighting?

Again,
You are ignoring everything I said . Ignorance is bliss ,isn't it?

Yeah just like you deflected My explanation with what ifs and made ups

By this time wouldn't she already know that even if she tries to block thaddues is definitely getting around that?
AlSO , it would be much better to try to kill that momentum thaddues gained with boosted his AP by dodging rather then tanking it.

Again dodging? You youself she can't dodge because Thaddeus has superior speed and which she knows that so blocking is best option she had cause she can't outrun or dodge Thaddues again which you are just going hoax with explanation that doesn't make any sense as human let alone trained fighter

 

[FragrantJaguar150]

Just like you didn't proved anything or when you claimed internal monologue as reaction?

Ignore? Buddy are you sure? Cause I countered if she knew the attacks are going to be lethal then why she didn't blocked it? Was she wanted die by getting all the impact?

I already did and I already replied it back which you seem to ignore and stuck to your own what if scenario initially you said she was in air because she was trying escape that's why Thaddeus struck her legs


Are you understanding your own words? Thaddeus was running around he could have hit anywhere on Skadi even in after math we see him crouching too which you


again ignoring the part where Thaddeus himself is on ground level while crouching which you again ignored and Skadi and Thaddeus doesn't have vast height difference, so him hitting her legs isn't big deal and it still nothing proves she trying to escape

What proof you have that she took damage on her arms? Other than that panel of special effects cause i already countered this cause in next panel she was standing alright which you again claimed she was injured there too but again assumption and speculation

Nope chill I am not you, like you ignored the part where I said Thaddeus himself was crouching on ground so him hitting her legs and ankles isn't crazy cause he was dashing while crouching which you really ignored
Also what imaginary demons are you fighting?

Yeah just like you deflected My explanation with what ifs and made ups


Again dodging? You youself she can't dodge because Thaddeus has superior speed and which she knows that so blocking is best option she had cause she can't outrun or dodge Thaddues again which you are just going hoax with explanation that doesn't make any sense as human let alone trained fighter

You are contradicting yourself here.
If the strikes are lethal then why try to put up a guard but not try to evade.
One would be 100% injury while other would have a chance for not getting damage and potentially killing the momentum Thaddeus gained.

I am not sticking to my what if scenario and I have proved why it is right and I am getting tired to explain it again and again.

Yes, I am perfectly understanding my own words. You are not understanding and what are you trying to prove here?

"Thaddeus was running around he could have hit anywhere on Skadi even in after math we see him crouching too which you"

-Something I should understand here?

Crouching? I am getting tired of explaining something SO simple.
Thaddues would need to reach her shoe level. Walk out of your screen and try to punch at something that is close to your own shoe level and you will surprising see how awkward it is. I won't even bother if you try to say that it is convenient. You would have to practically kneel down to do that or thaddues would have to be shorter the skadi by A HEAVY MARGIN.

What proof do I have to say skadi took damage? " "( Didn't what to use it but expressing myself here srry)
There is two objects or body parts that are called eyes and if you happen to have good pair then you can see that skadi took damage. (Not trying to be rude. Srryx2)
"Other then the special effect panel"

It is liking saying. " When did Conor knock out Aldo other then the first few seconds part"

Do you want skadi to have the same treatment that thomas does now?
Even in real life if you take or sustain heavy damage. You can still stand up and attempt movements but not just on the exact level you would normally function on and ALSO it explains why she would rather try to evade is because her arm is injured and she cannot relatistcally wouldn't block an attack that would do lethal damage on her body while healthy let alone when her arms are already Injured.

You are ignoring me and I don't have to conceive you . I would rather not waste my time here for a pointless argument. I would rather convince a staff and give my reasoning to them.
It would be better for us both and the length of thread.

 

[Sigmagoon14]

You are contradicting yourself here.
If the strikes are lethal then why try to put up a guard but not try to evade.
One would be 100% injury while other would have a chance for not getting damage and potentially killing the momentum Thaddeus gained.

Again it's you contradicting you claimed he has faster speed and Skadi knew that, so why would Skadi tried to evade knowing Thaddeus can catch her up?

I am not sticking to my what if scenario and I have proved why it is right and I am getting tired to explain it again and again.

Yes, I am perfectly understanding my own words. You are not understanding and what are you trying to prove here?

Yeah I understand that it's just circling from perception to reaction and nothing but assumptions

"Thaddeus was running around he could have hit anywhere on Skadi even in after math we see him crouching too which you"- Something I should understand here?

Again ignoring the part where he was crouching and cutting on other part

Crouching? I am getting tired of explaining something SO simple.
Thaddues would need to reach her shoe level. Walk out of your screen and try to punch at something that is close to your own shoe level and you will surprising see how awkward it is. I won't even bother if you try to say that it is convenient. You would have to practically kneel down to do that or thaddues would have to be shorter the skadi by A HEAVY MARGIN.

Again you aren't even understanding, do you know how low crouching is? Maybe you should try it now you don't even need to go out, just crouch in front of someone and see how your hands can reach someone's ankle so easily cause that's why Thaddeus was crouching even after hitting her, if he was standing which would be awkward not when crouching

What proof do I have to say skadi took damage? " "( Didn't what to use it but expressing myself here srry)
There is two objects or body parts that are called eyes and if you happen to have good pair then you can see that skadi took damage. (Not trying to be rude. Srryx2)
"Other then the special effect panel"

Yeah maye use those same eyes to see if that special effect damage was real she shouldn't even have working legs cause those special effects injury is literally showing her joint being destroyed yet she was standing

It is liking saying. " When did Conor knock out Aldo other then the first few seconds part"

Yeah I don't remember corner destroying Aldo's joint on extanct that those joints are twisted then Aldo stands back with nothing happened?

Do you want skadi to have the same treatment that thomas does now?
Even in real life if you take or sustain heavy damage. You can still stand up and attempt movements but not just on the exact level you would normally function on and ALSO it explains why she would rather try to evade is because her arm is injured and she cannot relatistcally wouldn't block an attack that would do lethal damage on her body while healthy let alone when her arms are already Injured.

Again I don't remember someone taking and joint shattering hits and standing back and even moving freely like normal person

You are ignoring me and I don't have to conceive you . I would rather not waste my time here for a pointless argument. I would rather convince a staff and give my reasoning to them.
It would be better for us both and the length of thread.

Yeah I am also getting tired by getting argued with assumptions and what ifs, yeah we should stop and wait for staff