Doremy Sweet vs Shadow the Hedgehog (Grace?)

[Cueio_2020]

- Both at 4-A

- Speed Equalized

- SBA






Doremy:7 (Junko, Zachary, Saikou, Chosen, Xanxussama, ShadowWarrior, Eficiente)

Shadow:0

Thunder McQuee:0

 

[DMB_1]

Since she won against Kirby, I heavily suggest you to bloodlust Sonic, or at least to change to Shadow the Hedgehog.

 

[Cueio_2020]

Okay

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Doremy is adorable

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Shadow can't bypass that Low-Godly, but KO + BFR with Chaos Rift would be his wincon.

Not voting yet.

 

[DMB_1]

The whole thing about the Chaos Rift wasn't concluded, right?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

That thread again?

The whole thing about it was "where you end up after getting BFR'd."

 

[DMB_1]

Yes.

 

[Cueio_2020]

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[Cueio_2020]

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[Cueio_2020]

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[Cueio_2020]

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[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Following

 

[Cueio_2020]

Bump

 

[FateAlbane]

I heard Doremy tends to start with Dream World BFR, so at the moment it sounds more to me like Shadow is the one getting the "Get out of my thread!" treatment.

Can he escape it or counter?

 

[Jinsye]

@Shadow >KO working on Low-Godly

no

@Fate

Doesn't Shadow have dimensional travel via Chaos Control or something?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Does dimensional travel help in escaping that?

Shadow has his own BFR with Chaos Rift and it's spammable.

 

[FateAlbane]

I dunno? That's why I'm asking, lol

I've been away from Touhou for a while so I'm not 100% sure on Doremy's methods of combat and weaknesses other than her starting with Dream stuff. I should probs read that Kirby match where she was extensively discussed to get a better grasp on what she does.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

@Edwardtruong2006 Not like she has limitless stamina. Low-Godly just means she won't die.

 

[FateAlbane]

From what I read so far in the other thread her BFR stuff is like 2-C in scale and she can escape from other people's BFR with her own portals, too. Also Saik said her power of Dream BFR puts you to sleep then shoves your soul into another world or something of the like.

"Meanwhile, in Touhou, it's more like putting you to sleep and shoving your soul into another world."

 

[Jinsye]

KO works by bashing someone on the head that they get knocked out.

Why would just hitting them on the head really hard work when they can survive the entire thing being evaporated

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

If it's a portal then Shadow could dodge it, the soul part though sounds like a bigger issue than just getting sent into another dimension.

The putting you to sleep bit, Shadow has limitless stamina.

Shadow can also time stop.

 

[FateAlbane]

Pretty sure it's not portal, since at some point she sort of just shrugs and everything changes to Dream World. Not saying she wins or it works, just that it's not that simple, probably.

"The putting you to sleep bit, Shadow has limitless stamina."

...Wait, why does this matter? lol Limitless stamina doesn't mean resistance to Sleep Manip, otherwise even DBZ Androids would be immune to it.

 

[The_Causality]

>A Doremy Match and Cal isn't here?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Pretty sure it's not portal, since at some point she sort of just shrugs and everything changes to Dream World. Not saying she wins or it works, just that it's not that simple, probably.

"The putting you to sleep bit, Shadow has limitless stamina."

...Wait, why does this matter? lol Limitless stamina doesn't mean resistance to Sleep Manip, otherwise even DBZ Androids would be immune to it.

Depends how the sleep manipulation works.


"Type 3: Restful Self-Sustenance: The ability to continue acting forever without rest or need for sleep. These users of this ability require no rest and do not run out of energy, or even feel tired. This ability denotes practically infinite stamina and may support a resistance to certain types of Sleep Manipulation."

 

[Jinsye]

Pretty sure Doremy's sleep manip isn't that weak

 

[The_Causality]

Doremy's Sleep literally affect The Souls, I don't think Infinte Stamina can Counter This kind of sleep manip

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yeah, that's pretty good then.

Shadow however did resist Ifrit's passive soul manipulation.

 

[The_Causality]

Not really want to debate but I don't think his Resistance change something since her Manipulation is way to different to Iffrit Manipulation as you don't scale Resistance to Soul Destruction to Soul Absorption.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

They both involve manipulating the soul.

Granted Doremy's sounds pretty good so I won't argue against this one.

 

[The_Causality]

Yeah but "Manipulation" can said many things, You don't resist to Absorption even if your body resist to being erased, it's the same logic

Anyway I'll just wait other arguments from both side before voting

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Ifrit doesn't erase souls, he binds them to take control over the target.

 

[Cueio_2020]

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[Cueio_2020]

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[FateAlbane]

This thread died for me on the basis of "I have no idea what happens".

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Why is this a thing.

99% sure Shadow can't do shit against Low-Godly and gets haxxed anyway.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Female Santa puts Shadow in eternal sleep

 

[FateAlbane]

My plan to nonchalantly summon Saikou has proved to be effective.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

He can't kill her.

But he can KO and BFR.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

>KO Low-Godly

>BFR someone with Low Multiversal range