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Takes place in Dressrosa.
Both in character.
Win by K.O.
Who takes this?
Both in character.
Win by K.O.
Who takes this?
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Donquixote Doflamingo vs Marco The Phoenix
- Thread starter Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki
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Marco is still relatively featless. His regenerative capabilities have an unknown limit.
If we're going by shown feats: Doflamingo wins this easily due to his Awakened Devil Fruit, superior physical stats, and level of mastery with each of his 3 haki.
If we're going by suggested hype: Marco wins since he's apparently comparable to the Yonko in stats + his insane Regenerationn.
This fight has to wait, i suggest removing it for the time being.
If we're going by shown feats: Doflamingo wins this easily due to his Awakened Devil Fruit, superior physical stats, and level of mastery with each of his 3 haki.
If we're going by suggested hype: Marco wins since he's apparently comparable to the Yonko in stats + his insane Regenerationn.
This fight has to wait, i suggest removing it for the time being.
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Why are we fighting 2 characters from the same verse anyways. Anyways Marco takes this easy diff. despite having little feats:
- stood toe to toe with akainu.
- took a serious punch from Garp( and shook it off). Kizaru shot a beam of light through him as well.
- His regenerative were quite impressive in the Marineford war. Far superior to Doflamingo.
All in all marco stood toe to toe with god tiers of the OP verse, meanwhile doflamingo was just dealing with mid(smoker)-top tiers( law and luffy).
- stood toe to toe with akainu.
- took a serious punch from Garp( and shook it off). Kizaru shot a beam of light through him as well.
- His regenerative were quite impressive in the Marineford war. Far superior to Doflamingo.
All in all marco stood toe to toe with god tiers of the OP verse, meanwhile doflamingo was just dealing with mid(smoker)-top tiers( law and luffy).
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If I recall correctly his haki can't even damage akainu elemental body.
Marco stomps.
More versatile, he can fly easily, he tank 4 Kizaru's beams and Doflamingo told that he would need all of his family to get only a chance to "beat" Fujitora, an admiral.
More versatile, he can fly easily, he tank 4 Kizaru's beams and Doflamingo told that he would need all of his family to get only a chance to "beat" Fujitora, an admiral.
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@Altair - Doflamingo did not say it that way, and this fight should honestly be close regardless due to lack of info on Marco, and that there will be a large gap in tier between them anyways.
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@Cin From what I understand, there is really no way physical attacks are going to cause lasting damage to Marco. Without the Yami Yami no mi or Kairouseki, he'll simply recover from whatever damage he's taken and carry on as if nothing happened. Marco succesfully tagged all three of the Admirals in Marineford, took a surprise punch from Garp and tanked attacks from Akainu and Kizaru - including attacks from Kizaru while he was unable to use his powers. The best Doflamingo can do is somehow turn it into a battle of attrition and hope that Marco has less stamina than him
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@Roy - the same can be said for Marco attacking Doflamingo. He has nothing to actually permanently damage Doflamingo. He has only shown physical blows + cuts with his talons. If he has heat-based attacks, i wont be surprised, but Doflamingo's pseudo-Regenerationn from threads almost nullifies physical-based attacks and cuts.
Either one of them one-shots the other, or it is inconclusive... or Marco reveals something that would allow him to actually bypass anything Doflamingo can handle.
Marco "tanking" attacks is not the case, since he perpetually regenerates due to the nature of his fruit. He can go up against someone 10 times stronger than him, and hold out pretty well, or even eventually beat them.
If Kizaru and Marco fought one-on-one with no time-limit and limitless stamina for example, neither could beat the other. Marco can kick Kizaru around all day, but not get anywhere due to logia dispersion/regen, and Kizaru's attacks on Marco would be meaningless, unless a head-shot can instantly kill Marco.
Either one of them one-shots the other, or it is inconclusive... or Marco reveals something that would allow him to actually bypass anything Doflamingo can handle.
Marco "tanking" attacks is not the case, since he perpetually regenerates due to the nature of his fruit. He can go up against someone 10 times stronger than him, and hold out pretty well, or even eventually beat them.
If Kizaru and Marco fought one-on-one with no time-limit and limitless stamina for example, neither could beat the other. Marco can kick Kizaru around all day, but not get anywhere due to logia dispersion/regen, and Kizaru's attacks on Marco would be meaningless, unless a head-shot can instantly kill Marco.
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Doflamingo's regen is clearly not at the same level as Marco because he is stiching himself up as opposed to actually regenerating,for instance, stitching up a slash wound merely blocks the blood flow and doesn't actually heal the wound. His accumulated damage from Law helped Luffy beat him.
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Marco The Phoenix gains this Regenerationn ability op
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I never suggested that Doflamingo regen = Marco regen. I am simply suggesting that Marco's attacks are not something that can bypass Doflamingo's "healing".
Gamma Knife caused an explosion inside of Doflamingo's torso. As soon as Law triggered it, Doflamingo spewed blood and smoke while his organs were messed up heavily. He utilized his threads to begin repairing the damage and could immediately begin fighting again, albeit weakened to a degree as his initial performance was clearly less impressive compared to his later performance against Base Luffy.
Doflamingo used his threads to "repair" the organs that Law destroyed, essentially restoring his organs to the point in which they were operating normally. The drawback is that he was still greatly fatigued due to blood-loss and the physical strain built up all the way until the end of the fight, since he was not actually "healing" the injuries.
If these two characters just duked it out, Doflamingo would not simply get KO'd from taking a lot of damage, since he has the ability to take physical punishment of that level, unless Marco is strong enough to bypass Doflamingo's durability, which he is not... yet...
Same for Doflamingo. He can't deal any permanent damage to Marco.
Gamma Knife caused an explosion inside of Doflamingo's torso. As soon as Law triggered it, Doflamingo spewed blood and smoke while his organs were messed up heavily. He utilized his threads to begin repairing the damage and could immediately begin fighting again, albeit weakened to a degree as his initial performance was clearly less impressive compared to his later performance against Base Luffy.
Doflamingo used his threads to "repair" the organs that Law destroyed, essentially restoring his organs to the point in which they were operating normally. The drawback is that he was still greatly fatigued due to blood-loss and the physical strain built up all the way until the end of the fight, since he was not actually "healing" the injuries.
If these two characters just duked it out, Doflamingo would not simply get KO'd from taking a lot of damage, since he has the ability to take physical punishment of that level, unless Marco is strong enough to bypass Doflamingo's durability, which he is not... yet...
Same for Doflamingo. He can't deal any permanent damage to Marco.
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But eventually Doflamingo would lose. Marco should, at the very least be in the same level to Big Mom's top commanders who are, in turn comparable to Gear 4 Luffy. Doflamingo would just keep accumulating damage while Marco immediately no-sells any damage dealt to him. I don't see how Marco doesn't eventually win
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Even Big Mom's commander (Cracker) was one-shot by Gear 4th Luffy. Doflamingo took several blows from Gear 4th after being quite roughed up beforehand and kept trucking on. Jozu, who should be comparable to Marco, was trolled by Doflamingo pretty hard. Atmos (fodder commander) got stomped.
If Marco doesn't get caught in threads, isn't stalled by ranged attacks, and can consistently keep Doflamingo on the defensive, he wins... but that's not going to be the case since both are roughly equal tier-wise.
In terms of Regenerationn, Marco clearly wins, but in terms of range, hax, and versatile ability, Doflamingo wins.
If Marco doesn't get caught in threads, isn't stalled by ranged attacks, and can consistently keep Doflamingo on the defensive, he wins... but that's not going to be the case since both are roughly equal tier-wise.
In terms of Regenerationn, Marco clearly wins, but in terms of range, hax, and versatile ability, Doflamingo wins.
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Luffy beat Doflamingo mainly because of Law, a literal army, and people carrying him miles away. Otherwise, after burning out Gear 4th the first time, Doflamingo would've walked down and killed him.
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Luffy got punched a couple times by Bellamy, Doflamingo got hit by Red-hawk which sent fire and smoke out his back, stabbed by Law's sword, and both engaged eachother while Luffy was clearly the underdog and falling back.
Law pops up and "SURPRISE MOTHA-----"'d Doflamingo before blowing his insides up with Gamma, and then proceeded to electrocute him. Doflamingo has a tougher time with Luffy repeatedly gut-punching him numerous times (salt on the wound haha).
After Luffy beat on Doflamingo with Gear 4th, and nearly passed out, Doflamingo fought an army of colosseum fighters, so he didn't exactly catch a break while Luffy got a 10 minute breather, and Doflamingo still almost beat Luffy if not taking his final attack head-on.
Calling Luffy "worn out" after Doflamingo went through that and still nearly won the fight is pretty strange.
Law pops up and "SURPRISE MOTHA-----"'d Doflamingo before blowing his insides up with Gamma, and then proceeded to electrocute him. Doflamingo has a tougher time with Luffy repeatedly gut-punching him numerous times (salt on the wound haha).
After Luffy beat on Doflamingo with Gear 4th, and nearly passed out, Doflamingo fought an army of colosseum fighters, so he didn't exactly catch a break while Luffy got a 10 minute breather, and Doflamingo still almost beat Luffy if not taking his final attack head-on.
Calling Luffy "worn out" after Doflamingo went through that and still nearly won the fight is pretty strange.
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Either way, Doflamingo's best play is to bind Marco with his strings and hope that he doesn't break them - considering that he clearly can't KO or kill Marco. But this is based on speculation that Marco is weaker than G4 Luffy who broke Doflamingo's God Threads. The best possible scenario for Doflamingo is Inconclusive
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After Luffy beat on Doflamingo with Gear 4th, and nearly passed out, Doflamingo fought an army of colosseum fighters, so he didn't exactly catch a break while Luffy got a 10 minute breather, and Doflamingo still almost beat Luffy if not taking his final attack head-on.
Colosseum fighters were like foughter to doffy. I think their somewhat negligible. The point does still though remain Luffy did get a 10 min breather. Still gonna say Marco though. From what he displayed in the war he had:His regenerative were quite impressive in the Marineford war. Has better durability. He Also fought toe to toe with the admirals. Honestly Oda made him pretty OP in the marinefore war. The only reason he lost was even because his hands were locked by seastone cuffs and kizaru shot through him. Yet he was still ready to fight. Marco wins this easy-mid difficulty.
Colosseum fighters were like foughter to doffy. I think their somewhat negligible. The point does still though remain Luffy did get a 10 min breather. Still gonna say Marco though. From what he displayed in the war he had:His regenerative were quite impressive in the Marineford war. Has better durability. He Also fought toe to toe with the admirals. Honestly Oda made him pretty OP in the marinefore war. The only reason he lost was even because his hands were locked by seastone cuffs and kizaru shot through him. Yet he was still ready to fight. Marco wins this easy-mid difficulty.
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@Dark - the only reason Marco even lasted long against Kizaru was because of the regen factor. He perpetually healed while taking hits. He didn't do anything to Aokiji or Kizaru in terms of damage.
Doflamingo was going around fighting literally anyone, including WB commanders. At the end of the war, when we see him going for an execution attempt on Moriah, he was completely unscathed after the war, despite being in the middle of it up until Shanks and Sengoku called it off.
Doflamingo was going around fighting literally anyone, including WB commanders. At the end of the war, when we see him going for an execution attempt on Moriah, he was completely unscathed after the war, despite being in the middle of it up until Shanks and Sengoku called it off.
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The reason Doffy walked by unscathed was because he wasnt fighting any top tiers of the OP verse. The most he did in the war was take control of diamond jozu with his strongs. However I believe he was just caught off guard at the time. Moria is foughter, and Crocodile isnt even worth mentioning.
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You suggest that Marco went toe-to-toe with Admirals. The only one he actually fought face-to-face was Kizaru, who he failed to actually hurt. And his surprise attacks on Akainu and Aokiji left them unharmed.
I brought up Moria because that was pretty much after the war's conclusion. Doflamingo was unscathed when shown there.
If you want to continue talking "Admirals", then how about when Fujitora was incapable of doing anything to Bird-Cage? And how Doflamingo was perfectly fine after being frozen by Aokiji? He flat out challenged Fujitora to a fight, and he did the same to Sengoku right in his face.
Marco may have contended with Kizaru, but Doflamingo shows evidence that he could do the same with one of the other characters at that level of power.
I brought up Moria because that was pretty much after the war's conclusion. Doflamingo was unscathed when shown there.
If you want to continue talking "Admirals", then how about when Fujitora was incapable of doing anything to Bird-Cage? And how Doflamingo was perfectly fine after being frozen by Aokiji? He flat out challenged Fujitora to a fight, and he did the same to Sengoku right in his face.
Marco may have contended with Kizaru, but Doflamingo shows evidence that he could do the same with one of the other characters at that level of power.
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Marco via better powers and superior strength. The Goresei even still noted Marco and the WB Pirates in the same bracket as the Yonkou.
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Any winner?
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Marco is supposed to be equal to the Admirals, says in the databook Blue Deep i think.
Marco can regen himself, support easily the attacks of Kizaru and hurts him. Doflamingo can do nothing against Kuzan or Fujitora. We know that Marco is quite similar to Katakuri or Jack, pirates with a bounty of 1 billion.
I think that Marco stomps
Marco can regen himself, support easily the attacks of Kizaru and hurts him. Doflamingo can do nothing against Kuzan or Fujitora. We know that Marco is quite similar to Katakuri or Jack, pirates with a bounty of 1 billion.
I think that Marco stomps
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Until we find out a limit to Marco's healing he takes this.....He was capable of breifly contending with all of the three admirals and heal from an onslaught of lazer beams from Kizaru......Nothing suggest that Doflamingo can dish out the level attacks Marco has healed from or do the same feats he did..
I think Marco Backhands
I think Marco Backhands
