Does this makes sense to you?

[KoichiSamakibara]

Beerus is stated by the Kais to be powerful enough to destroy the entire universe, yet, it is a general consensus here that he can only destroy the physical matter of a universe. With this crude paint-thing I tried to express my feelings about why Beerus should be at least, High Universe Level.
All the physical matter is gone, but the afterlife is still intact. Is that how the wiki visualizes Beerus power?

Just one more thing, please don't ban. I know it might feel like an insult, but I did it with the best intents in mind.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Nobody is going to ban you, and even if we accepted this universe model, it's irrelevant as the universe gap is literally any finite number, so the dbu being a "macrocosm" of like 3 universes, as some ppl put it wouldn't change anything, what's needed is proof that beerus can destroy space-time. He certainty may have like multi-universe range for being able to reach the afterlife though i think.

 

[KoichiSamakibara]

@Celestial Pegasus

That'd acceptable as well. He threatens all of the universe (which include the afterlifes and the Kaioshin Kai, a place that exists outside of the universe according to some guidebooks). It'd be weird for him to be Universe Level, and kind of awkward.

 

[KoichiSamakibara]

Bump for further discussion. Sorry.

 

[Kaltias]

I know that it sound strange, but destroying multiple universes without affecting space-time is just a higher degree of Universe level. To be High Universe level, he would need to do something like destroying all the matter of an infinite multiverse or destroying a considerable portion of space-time. That's because the gap between Universe and High Universe is infinite, and so is the one between High Universe (in the 3D sense) and Universe+

 

[LordGriffin1000]

As said above destroying any finite number of universes without effecting space time is still universe level.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I asked a similar thing before.

Here

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if a universe is infinitely large, it is a High 3-A feat.

Anyway, we are obviously not going to ban you Koichi. You are likely the only member who has been here for longer than I have. You would have to really mess up in order to get blocked.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

What Ant said. But dang. You have been here a while.

 

[Lina_Shields]

In order for Beerus to reach High 3-A, there must be a source stating that each of the Universes must be infinite when it comes to size.

The anime/manga did not make it clear the actual size of the universe is, thus the diameter/radius of the observable universe is used.

Thus, Beerus =/= High 3-A, as the size of a Universe in DBS is not infinite.

However, if by any chance Beerus was able to destroy the universe, would he be able to destroy the afterlife of that specific universe in question [From what I heard, the afterlife is located in a separate space-time continuum]?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

That's the wired thing, Zeno is currently 2-C for destroying all 12 universes and their afterlifes and all other pocket dimensions. Yet Goku and Beerus where going to stated and showing to be effecting the kioshin realm which is above the afterlife which is above the universe so they had to be effecting the afterlife to get to the kioshin realm. This would make all characters SSG Goku level and above low 2-C, though the afterlife was not shown being affected during their clash it would be impossible for their shockwaves to reach the kioshin realm without touching the afterlife.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Zen'o seems to be a case of complete space-time destruction, whereas Goku is more on the physical matter side of things, with possibly Multi-Universal range.

 

[Kaltias]

Goku and Beerus were destroying the universes on a 3D scale. in their case, it's more a matter of range than AP.

 

[Antvasima]

That is correct, yes. Regrettably, our system does not have enough tiers to handle great differences in universal power.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Antvasima yeah they would still be 3-A, i forgot about that physical matter destruction

 

[KoichiSamakibara]

Thanks for clearing things up guys, it was kinda confusing for me.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem.