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Fair fair
Can you ping some other staff like clover and dale (since they've commented prior) maybe get their updated opinion
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Does this calc actually violate KE rules?
Fair fair
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What's new?
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Nothing really, I just wanted clarification if the last time you commented here meant you were in favor of accepting it as a possibly, were still entirely neutral, or were leaning agree.
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Oh thought I said already but I was leaning agree
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No you did say already but I was just curious for further confirmation cuz I was a bit confused.
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I'm currently leaning disagree for KT's reasons.
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Did I read things wrong, I don't think I saw a disagreement
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Okay I might have misread earlier then I thought he a was making that statement in agreeance for some reason.
Its super late for me so I'll reread everything later for now put me back as neutral until I read again
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We measure destruction done above the KE. If we throw a ball with 7-C force and it doesn’t crack a wall, it’s 9-B
The attacks KE is tier 5 from shoving itself through earth at high speeds. If just moving a tectonic plate an inch can cause earthquakes throughout earth, then thrusting a fat ass tree through the planet, regardless of its volume, should do a lot of damage
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This isn't the case here. It's not about stoping while doing less damage, it's about passing through doing less damage. It's not the same. "Doesn't crack wall" isn't relevant here anyway, the roots should not "pierce the Earth completely" for using your example.
A ball with 7-C energy can still cause 9B damage but it won't stop from it.
doesn't matter as both tier 5 attack doing tier 7 damage and tier 7 attack doing tier 7 damage would still cause earthquakes.
That inconsistency is independent of it being tier 5. If the initial KE was tier 7, it would also cause earthquakes. What you are saying is not about the initial KE, you are just talking about the effect that the destruction should have caused on the Earth.
What my inference from your claim should be? "If effects that destruction should have caused aren't compatible with visible destruction, ...", what is the result here and how it even affects initial KE? The series just didn't take it into consideration, but even if we accept that destruction is less that volume of the roots (which is illogical) this still doesn't affect initial KE as those effects like earthquakes are depended on destruction, not initial KE.
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Who said it can't crack
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I literally said that "can't crack" example is invalid for this situation and why
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Either way, it's true that destruction caused (if applicable) is always taken over kinetic energy
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destruction should take precedence over the energy lost during destruction, not the initial energy which isn't even relevant to the caused destruction.
If a flying ball with 7-C energy can't crack a wall, using 7-C for ball is obviously wrong.
If a flying ball with 7-C energy destroys a wall and remains most of its energy, it's consistent, simple. If energy change and destruction differ, you still take destruction over it.
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Couldn't we use the interpretation that the roots simply kinda "vaporize" their way through the earth? It's very common in fiction that a projectile passes through an object without destroying anything other than the part that got hit despite the fact it realistically should have.
Like if a character were to throw a 50kg ball of lead through a wall at half the speed of light and the ball only destroyed the part of the wall it directly touched without even moving a single additional brick, would we say this feat is not not even tier 9. Basically, the roots don't get fully stopped by the planet meaning they don't actually fully transfer 5B energy onto earth same way this hypothetical ball wouldn't transfer all of its energy onto the wall
Like if a character were to throw a 50kg ball of lead through a wall at half the speed of light and the ball only destroyed the part of the wall it directly touched without even moving a single additional brick, would we say this feat is not not even tier 9. Basically, the roots don't get fully stopped by the planet meaning they don't actually fully transfer 5B energy onto earth same way this hypothetical ball wouldn't transfer all of its energy onto the wall
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Is it possible the tree could be holding the ground in place or would the tectonic plates start shifting from just the force exerted near the surface.
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I mean I don't know why we'd make such an assumption in an attempt to rationalize something rather than just going off of what we know
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So are you switching your stance to disagreeing?
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I'm thinking it over some more, I was just not a fan of that argument
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I meant similar to how actual trees hold the ground I figured that may be something worth considering
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