Doctor Strange upgrade

[The_Archdemon]

Summary

Well, I think Classic Dr. Strange page is not being fair with him. Well I'll just make a list of the things I think are wrong:

Durability
This is what immediately calls upon my attention. He is with only Street level physical durability. But we know he is better than that, as we can se when he tanks blows from the Mindless Ones. You know, even Hulk has trouble with these guys.

There is also when he survives a planetary Destruction caused by Mordo.

I think it would be enought to put him with at least Planet level physical durability

Speed
Well, the speed is quite good, but I think it can be better.

As we can see here, Strange travelede to a dimension without time, and was still capable of moving and even fighting inside of it.

So, knowing S = D/T, if there is no time (T=0), the formula cannot be applied, wich qualifies Immensurable speed.

This speed is also qualified to him 'cause he is at least a being with 12 dimensions, which means he is into a far higher dimensional level of the multiverse.

Attack potency
I have a sca that, although is in portuguese, says that Strange, using a insignificant amount of magic, maneged to defeat some imps coming from the 12th dimension (you can translate it for yourselves, if you want to). This would put his attack potency with at least High Complex Multiverse level.


I also have some others things to point, but for now it is enough. I'll wait for a repply about the page's actual stats.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

12-Dimensional is low Hyperverse level.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The scan says

"So I spent the last hours defending ourselves do twelfth dimensional elves"

 

[Promestein]

12-dimensional Strange sounds suuuuuuuuper inconsistent

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He is an inconsistent character overall. I mean he does have at least two High 1-B feats.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I'm not saying we should upgrade him to High 1-B. I'm just pointing that out.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

>Two High 1-B feats not accepted

>One Low 1-B feat should be accepted

Interrogation point.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Here are his High 1-B feats.


http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/strange/Dr-strange_Beyonder.jpg


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107179/3535384-drstrangeowninglt.jpg

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Strange isn't 12D nor Infinite-D.

Strange threatening Beyonder is inconsistent. TLT was Tier 2 in the 70s.

His 5-B Durability feat is with barriers.

The 12th Dimensional Imps thing happens off-screen and is a statement.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Matt saving the day.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Matt saving the day.

Super Matt.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

@Saikou

you mean ruining dreams again ovo

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

TLT was tier 2 in the 70s

https://imgur.com/8ccVJ8s?r

Strange threatning beyonder is inconsistent

Why is it inconsistent if he could fight, although ultimately lose to, the living tribunal, another High 1-B entity?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I do agree 12-Dimensional strange doesen't make much sense though

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

That scan is from Fantastic Four Annual #23 which came out in 1990. Also doesn't prove he is High 1-B.

So it's not a High 1-B feat.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Marvel has only one canon across its whole multiverse. Since the living tribunal is a multiversal entity. He can't be multiversal now but not then unless he got a canonical boost of some sort.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Strange is at least 2-A.

He could fight the infinity gauntlet.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...vwE-uGDM_bLdMBMr2tA9lEVjvMUwqE86fVHwytztKxfaK

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

What is that, a comic for ants? Strange was significantly Amped, using all his artefacts

Still got stomped hard

He had to resort to putting Warlock's soul back to normal

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

And why can't he use all his artifacts in a fight?

He lost but after a very close fight.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

And where is living tribunal being 2-C in the 70s from again?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Tribunal_Classic.jpg

Classic Tribunal embodimes multiverse

Classic multiverse is High 1-B

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107179/3535384-drstrangeowninglt.jpg

Strange fights off tribunal

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Strange isn't High 1-B.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Yeah because his profile is missing a lot of his best feats.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Strange could also see the true form of Pre-Retcon Beyonder, which I think should be something.

And 5-B resistence feats from Strange that I pointed up there aren't with his shields.

And nobody mentioned the speed I also pointede up there.

 

[Dark649]

Outliers also exist. If Matthew and Ant disagrees, they will not be applied.

 

[The_Archdemon]

So, please, close the thread

 

[Dark649]

I'll wait for Matthew to check the last posts.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think it can be closed.

 

[Dark649]

Ok.