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Doctor Fate vs Dark Schneider
- Thread starter Huesito88
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i wanna know what fate does IC. Iirc DS doesn't exactly screw aroudn at all as the adam of darkness
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Tbh it doesn't seem doctor fate resists a lot of things DS can pull which he normally attacks for mind, body and soul. While minds is fine for fate the rest not so much tbf. No idea still doe
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Fate can just Power Absorb. Done and done. Fate takes this low-diff.
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how so? Elaborate. Does he do that IC? And does he have to touch or smth?
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I'm pretty sure he does it IC, and it's ranged.
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He could also banish him from the cosmos.
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Why is no one else debating? It's kind of a good fight.
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This match seems difficult to determine but not impossible. Especially when we consider that their are very valid ways for either side to kill the other.
Now since both characters have distinct hax and counterhax I'm going to look at their respective bios only including the abilities that their opponent doesn't have an immediate counter for (this also means Im excluding abilities they both share). They should look something like this:
Doctor Fate: Telekinesis, Size Manipulation, Time Travel, Soul Manipulation, Power Absorption, Intangibility, Can channel power from all of humanity, Creation, Power Bestowal, Blood Manipulation, Biological Manipulation & Transmutation (Can change the blood types of multiple beings), Clairvoyance, Absorption & Attack Reflection (Can absorb and redirect energy), Can heal wounds and machines, Weather Manipulation, Invisibility(Can make himself and other things invisible), Cosmic Awareness
Dark Schneider: Enhanced Senses, Forcefield Creation, Acid Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Ice Manipulation (Absolute Zero), Space-Time Manipulation (Can distort space and time), Energy Absorption, Existence Erasure (Dispel Bound strikes his opponent's Eternal Atoms on every level of existence and destroys them all), Sealing (Can trap others in magical prison, may result in Soul Destruction), Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Reality Warping, and Instant Victory effects(Via Dispel Bound), Regenerationn (Low-Godly; cannot be killed unless his body, soul, and spirit, which all exist in different dimensions, are destroyed all at once
NOTES:
-Immortality was not specified on Strange's behalf but as he's protected by Nabu im rolling with the idea that it's at least as potent as DS.
-Power absorption and Energy Manipulation are separate abilities and should not be intractable with one another.
-Empathy, Memory, Sleep and Morality manipulation im considering lesser forms of Mind manipulation (Which DS and DF have a resistance to) so they were removed.
Looking at it DS has the better defenses but Kent has better hax methods of attack. From a raw AP perspective DF should also be packing more firepower since his 3-A is more overt.
Clear 3-A
As opposed to DS's 3-A which comes off more as a polite suggestion rather than a concrete statement of fact.
Proposed 3-A
Speed: Is equalised so that doesn't factor much though I am perturbed at how DS could stave off Fate's assaults as his best defense Dispel Bound does come with the caveat of: "While powerful, these forcefields can be easily destroyed by those significantly stronger than Darsh, and can be torn away by those on his level, but they regenerate quickly." and until further exemplification of DS's 3-A power comes to light im inclined to believe Fate is capable of breaking these barriers.
Durability: Darsh from a physical perspective shouldn't be as tough as Fate (see image above) but his biggest lifeline lies in his Dispel Bound and Low-G Regen. The former of which should be penetrable by Fate and the latter shouldn't be impossible for Kent given his Power, Multiversal range and DS sheer inability to mount a winning offense. The only thing that MIGHT do Kent in is Existence erasure but even that doesn't seem likely given all of the ways Kent can avoid this and his Clairvoyance getting him this information.
Intelligence: Then another major problem; Nabu is too experienced and versatile of a deity for Darsh to stand against. He's VASTLY more knowledgeable and likely has a much stronger grasp on all the abilities at play that even DS is using.
Overall: Doctor Fate
-Outright more powerful
-Far more skilled and knowledgeable with magic
-Dispel bound may stop some of Fate's hax but isn't strong enough to stand against
himself
-With all countering abilities aside, Kent has more versatile offensive abilities to use on DS than the vice versa
Now since both characters have distinct hax and counterhax I'm going to look at their respective bios only including the abilities that their opponent doesn't have an immediate counter for (this also means Im excluding abilities they both share). They should look something like this:
Doctor Fate: Telekinesis, Size Manipulation, Time Travel, Soul Manipulation, Power Absorption, Intangibility, Can channel power from all of humanity, Creation, Power Bestowal, Blood Manipulation, Biological Manipulation & Transmutation (Can change the blood types of multiple beings), Clairvoyance, Absorption & Attack Reflection (Can absorb and redirect energy), Can heal wounds and machines, Weather Manipulation, Invisibility(Can make himself and other things invisible), Cosmic Awareness
Dark Schneider: Enhanced Senses, Forcefield Creation, Acid Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Ice Manipulation (Absolute Zero), Space-Time Manipulation (Can distort space and time), Energy Absorption, Existence Erasure (Dispel Bound strikes his opponent's Eternal Atoms on every level of existence and destroys them all), Sealing (Can trap others in magical prison, may result in Soul Destruction), Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Reality Warping, and Instant Victory effects(Via Dispel Bound), Regenerationn (Low-Godly; cannot be killed unless his body, soul, and spirit, which all exist in different dimensions, are destroyed all at once
NOTES:
-Immortality was not specified on Strange's behalf but as he's protected by Nabu im rolling with the idea that it's at least as potent as DS.
-Power absorption and Energy Manipulation are separate abilities and should not be intractable with one another.
-Empathy, Memory, Sleep and Morality manipulation im considering lesser forms of Mind manipulation (Which DS and DF have a resistance to) so they were removed.
Looking at it DS has the better defenses but Kent has better hax methods of attack. From a raw AP perspective DF should also be packing more firepower since his 3-A is more overt.
Clear 3-A
As opposed to DS's 3-A which comes off more as a polite suggestion rather than a concrete statement of fact.
Proposed 3-A
Speed: Is equalised so that doesn't factor much though I am perturbed at how DS could stave off Fate's assaults as his best defense Dispel Bound does come with the caveat of: "While powerful, these forcefields can be easily destroyed by those significantly stronger than Darsh, and can be torn away by those on his level, but they regenerate quickly." and until further exemplification of DS's 3-A power comes to light im inclined to believe Fate is capable of breaking these barriers.
Durability: Darsh from a physical perspective shouldn't be as tough as Fate (see image above) but his biggest lifeline lies in his Dispel Bound and Low-G Regen. The former of which should be penetrable by Fate and the latter shouldn't be impossible for Kent given his Power, Multiversal range and DS sheer inability to mount a winning offense. The only thing that MIGHT do Kent in is Existence erasure but even that doesn't seem likely given all of the ways Kent can avoid this and his Clairvoyance getting him this information.
Intelligence: Then another major problem; Nabu is too experienced and versatile of a deity for Darsh to stand against. He's VASTLY more knowledgeable and likely has a much stronger grasp on all the abilities at play that even DS is using.
Overall: Doctor Fate
-Outright more powerful
-Far more skilled and knowledgeable with magic
-Dispel bound may stop some of Fate's hax but isn't strong enough to stand against
himself
-With all countering abilities aside, Kent has more versatile offensive abilities to use on DS than the vice versa
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Agreed also wow that response
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tbh yeah. DS is too suggestive while he likely has all his other haxes unless we somehow get more its likely that it won't really help for now so Fate FRA specifically at mirai-koichi's reasons
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Bump this is a decent fight
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Doctor Fate FRA.
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Doctor Fate hasn't won yet?
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I know but he's a clear cut winner here.
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I was just pointing out that it isn't getting the attention it deserves, gosh
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Fate FRA
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Grace, finally.
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Hallelujah
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Fate beat Darsh? Yeah, never underestimating him again.
Dark meets his fate FRA.
Dark meets his fate FRA.
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You once underestimated Fate? We can't be friends.
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NoThInG pErSoNaL kId
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