Do 1-A locations have to transcend matter?

[ProfectusInfinity]

Title says it all. Do 1-A realms have to be superior to and undefined by all physical phenomena?

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

yes

 

[Frey_Starlight]

yes as all physical phenomenons are tied to dimensions, so by proxy of being qualitative superior to dimensions means 1-A locations transcend all matter.

 

[Osemere]

Theoretically yes, under the definition of physics we use today and the classical philosophical definition, but it definitely depends on how physicality and matter are approached in any given setting. Some settings have pseudo-physics on the highest levels which are given a pass due to just being approximations which hit the right buzzwords (Xeelee, Marvel, etc.)

 

[FinePoint]

99.9% of the time, yes, unless the verse does some real convoluted work to make them reach that level without involving any normal physics.
I don't know of an example which exists, but I guess it could be theoretically possible.

 

[MeiouHades]

Unless you're a Chinese/Cultivation verse where usually the higher power source grants "access" to the lower realms, yes. They have to be completely and utterly qualitatively superior to anything "below" them. I know exactly why this thread exists though and it's funny when I asked this I never got an answer

 

[Vesxpura]

yes as all physical phenomenons are tied to dimensions, so by proxy of being qualitative superior to dimensions means 1-A locations transcend all matter.

What if the matter itself is metaphysical and is qualitively superior to physical matter

 

[MeiouHades]

What if the matter itself is metaphysical and is qualitively superior to physical matter

That seems like a contradiction. In that case it isn't matter at all

 

[Frey_Starlight]

What if the matter itself is metaphysical and is qualitively superior to physical matter

you answered your question, if its qualitaitve superior to matter, then it by proxy is qualitatively superior to dimensional axis where matter exist.

 

[MeiouHades]

Qualitatively superior matter is.... something

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Qualitatively superior matter is.... something

It can exist? Imagine a R>F world where the higher world is like our own and has its own matter, dimensions, and etc. There's no continuity between it and the lower world and there's a complete disconnect in quality.

 

[MeiouHades]

It can exist? Imagine a R>F world where the higher world is like our own and has its own matter, dimensions, and etc. There's no continuity between it and the lower world and there's a complete disconnect in quality.

This is the whole "DC and Marvel have 1-A atoms" crap

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

This is the whole "DC and Marvel have 1-A atoms" crap

It's not remotely close? The atoms/matter between the lower and higher world would just be fundamentally different in nature.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

No? 1-A can be achieved by R > F and can just be made up of matter that is 'more real' than that of the realities below.

 

[Vesxpura]

you answered your question, if its qualitaitve superior to matter, then it by proxy is qualitatively superior to dimensional axis where matter exist.

i was just checking if it would be a disqualifer or not.