DMC5 Vergil vs Julius Novachrono

[Lightning_XXI]

Guys, wait for the CRT

If it gets accepted, it will give Vergil Resistance to Time Manipulation which is what Julius uses to EE

 

[SpookyShadow]

Welp, Julius is pretty useless against guys with Timehax resistance.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Guys, wait for the CRT

If it gets accepted, it will give Vergil Resistance to Time Manipulation which is what Julius uses to EE

He already has resistance to time manip. Besides, he uses age manipulation to EE

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Guys, wait for the CRT
If it gets accepted, it will give Vergil Resistance to Time Manipulation which is what Julius uses to EE

Lemme guess. Is that from resisting Mundus passive?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Julius kinda precogs everything, regenerates damage by stalling time, and can seal, destroy, speed, or EE Vergil's time.

 

[AstralKing7]

BC ca DMC is starting to become a thing and I like it

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Guys, wait for the CRT

If it gets accepted, it will give Vergil Resistance to Time Manipulation which is what Julius uses to EE

He already has resistance to time manip. Besides, he uses age manipulation to EE

He resists Time Stop for now

Also, Age can be countered by DT since it gives him Type 1 Immortality

 

[Epsilon_R]

Age magic can be both time acceleration (Age Vergil until he doesn't exist) or time reversal (Rejuvenate Vergil to the point he doesn't exist)

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Unless he can pull off both of them at the same time b4 Vergil gets close then I don't think it is fair.

I mean, with the AP difference like this Vergil just glares too hard at him and be done with it.

4km with FTL speeds is nothing.

Even then this version of Vergil resist time stop meaning only the unnamed erasing attack can work and that is if they hit as Vergil can just teleport out of the way.

Using DT Vegil is inmune to the aging magic as he has inmortality type 1 & 3 as a demon on top of becoming faster and fear haxing Julius to death.

Like I said, I personally think this is spite for what you were talking in the other thread with the OP.

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[Epsilon_R]

He already has resistance to time manip. Besides, he uses age manipulation to EE

Epsilon R wrote:

Age magic can be both time acceleration (Age Vergil until he doesn't exist) or time reversal (Rejuvenate Vergil to the point he doesn't exist)

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Guys, wait for the CRT
If it gets accepted, it will give Vergil Resistance to Time Manipulation which is what Julius uses to EE

 

[Obscenly]

should I make him start in DT?

 

[Epsilon_R]

No that would be a stomp

 

[Epsilon_R]

For the third time, his resistance to time manip won't matter here since he uses age manipulation to EE

 

[SpookyShadow]

Age Manipulation is subcategory of time manip. Vergil is immortal type 1 so age hax doesn't work on him. And Julius' EE is reversal/annihilation based

 

[Obscenly]

Age Manipulation is subcategory of time manip. Vergil is immortal type 1 so age hax doesn't work on him. And Julius' EE is reversal/annihilation based

His EE sounds pretty useless to to immortal characters if it reverses your age.

 

[SpookyShadow]

It's annihilating your time, meaning you don't exist. I've seen people claiming that it's accelerating age to the point of turning into ash, but then ash wouldn't literally appear in his hands and in such big amount. It was either air pressure (old building) or fancy effect.

 

[Obscenly]

It's annihilating your time, meaning you don't exist. I've seen people claiming that it's accelerating age to the point of turning into ash, but then ash wouldn't literally appear in his hands and in such big amount. It was either air pressure (old building) or fancy effect.

Isn't turning somebody to ash a natural means, or is that just if they're already dead?

 

[Epsilon_R]

His EE sounds pretty useless to to immortal characters if it reverses your age.

Type 1 immortals cannot die from old age, that doesn't mean that they can't be rejuvenated to the point they don't exist. Also having type 1 doesn't automatically make you unable to age, you can't die from old age, but you can still age

 

[SpookyShadow]

It's not turning into ash. Patry stated that Julius is capable of annihilating/destroying time. I'm pretty sure that's this ability, because again, this is not how decomposition works.

 

[Obscenly]

It's not turning into ash. Patry stated that Julius is capable of annihilating/destroying time. I'm pretty sure that's this ability, because again, this is not how decomposition works.

I see.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Honestly, Julius kit as a whole is very vague. His 2 fights are him holding back and hasnt showcase ability like Deceleration and Timeloop. It's possible that he can maybe paradox someone. We have yet to see him fight at full power

 

[SpookyShadow]

His grimoire is building sized, I'm pretty sure he has way more overpowered spells

 

[Epsilon_R]

He has shown time loop

 

[SpookyShadow]

He looped those guys from Patry's squad iirc

 

[Epsilon_R]

Who are you voting btw

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

He has shown time loop

I mean GER level timeloop

 

[Epsilon_R]

Oh

 

[Obscenly]

He has shown time loop

I mean GER level timeloop

GER?! Lmao.

 

[SpookyShadow]

GER's ability is not really timeloop but I know what you mean

 

[Obscenly]

GER's ability is not really timeloop but I know what you mea

Doesn't he just turn everything to zero, and to some extent reset the universe or some shit?

 

[Obscenly]

Julius def deserves his credit, though.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

It's like cause and effect type ability. I can hardly say he controls time minus the rewind part

 

[Obscenly]

It's like cause and effect type ability. I can hardly say he controls time minus the rewind part

GER's timehax is pretty ******* broken, man

 

[SpookyShadow]

GER resetted Diavolo's erased time, it's causality manipulation I'd say. And Diavolo can see certain future, but GER changed it so that's also a bit of fatehax. Anything done against him never really happened, that's his ability.

But well, better not to derail.

 

[Obscenly]

GER resetted Diavolo's erased time, it's causality manipulation I'd say. And Diavolo can see certain future, but GER changed it so that's also a bit of fatehax. Anything done against him never really happened, that's his ability.
But well, better not to derail.

That sounds broken.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yeah, people claim that GER is one of the most broken abilities in fiction. And it really is if we don't consider those tier 1 thingies. You need acausality or higher dimensional hax to bypass GER ability, or maybe some other I forgot about.

 

[Obscenly]

Yeah, people claim that GER is one of the most broken abilities in fiction. And it really is if we don't consider those tier 1 thingies. You need acausality or higher dimensional hax to bypass GER ability, or maybe some other I forgot about.

HA DIO's Universe rewriting is pretty broken too.

 

[Obscenly]

Yeah, people claim that GER is one of the most broken abilities in fiction. And it really is if we don't consider those tier 1 thingies. You need acausality or higher dimensional hax to bypass GER ability, or maybe some other I forgot about.

JoJo also does have a rat that can beat a lot of people that are higher tiers than it.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Sadly it was downgraded