ZERO7772 said:
Even if you downplay both Dante and Vergil to being at Half of their power, Nero would still smack them hard considering he stopped TWO Sin DT casually and threw them back. Comparing this situation to DMC3 is BS considering Dante back then couldn't even use DT to get rid of Arkham, while here he's spamming Sin DT just fine.
Literally, every argument against Nero is pure head-canon and bias against him because fanboys don't like the fact that the fan-favorite Dante is now in #2 spot.
You know, insulting people of being biased just because they found another logic for Nero defeating Vergil really surprises me, specially coming from you, Zero
Dante isn't the number 1 alone, Vergil is with him, and you don't see anyone here arguing against that
if Arkham got stomped by Vergil but can stomp the twins while they are tired, then we can say that they didn't had even half of their power, but it's not...you know, literal, it's a estimate
100% Vergil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arkham
Arkham >>>>>>>>> Dante and Vergil (they can't land a single hit)
considering he stopped TWO
Sin DT casually and threw them back
He stopped two TIRED SDT forms, and they ran out of SDT before being slapped, so... are you being biased here ? Because you're lying
As I told you, Dante and Vergil being merely tired in DMC3 is nonsense. We see them slicing eachother, blood going everywhere. They aren't merely 'tired', they are injured. As for the Arkham statements, he tossed them around, and even if he'd lose to Dante and Vergil while they are in perfect condition, he already proved he is a threat on his own.
When he proved to be a threat by POWER ? When he was stabed by Vergil ? He only fought them because they were tired, it was his plan right from the beggining, after that fight he had the Force Edge, then he was a real threat
And he was saying things like "you are wounded and weak, even I can do this to you", they were slashing each other in that fight aaand in DMC5 you also need to slash Vergil to "win" against him, so this doesn't mean nothing, it happened in both cases
Let's see what Dante and Nero were doing before the fight:
- Nero got stomped from Urizen, then fought Malphas and then was escaping until decided to go after Vergil
- Dante saved Nero from Urizen, fights him in SDT, then fights King Cerberus, then fights Urizen again, then got slapped by Vergil (because he was already tired), Vergil even says that Dante needs to get Strong again to fight him
- Then Nero was running and Dante still fights Griffon, Nightmare and Shadow, and they even stated that Dante had a little trouble in defeating them
Aaaand Finally Dante fights Vergil, his equal
Nero got stomped by Urizen, true, but his other fights weren't against people comparable to him, Dante not only fought King Cerberus and V's summons, he fought Post-Fruit Urizen and Vergil before Nero's arrival, they were all hard battles
Vergil tells Dante heal his wounds and to get strong. You want to bring quotes into this, but ignore the ones that outright throw your argument to the ground. He didn't tell Dante to "Rest, you're tired".
Yeah, "GET STRONG" means what for you ? Nothing ?
As for Before the Nightmare, you do realize when Mundus fought Vergil, Vergil was on his last leg, right? He fought Dante 3 times, 2 of those times had him slashed deeply, or sliced in half during their last fight, using all of his demonic energy to keep himself alive, right?
He fights Dante for the second time a little after the mid game, he fights Arkham and then Dante in sequel.
And this is just to prove that their power varies if the stamina
"Less than half of their actual power" Making up your own head-canon, I see. And, where exactly does it suggest they are less than half power? Quit being ridiculous.
It wasn't literal, and let's stop calling each other ridiculous, because it is...ridiculous
You know, i'm not telling you guys that Nero is a dead weight, but calling him stronger than Dante and Vergil is just too much, since we can't say for sure how dante and vergil were after fighting each other, but in DMC3 we see what happens if they fight while being equal, even fodders like Arkham could stomp them both without any problems, and going by that, we can't say that Nero's feats against them are enough proof to say he's stronger, they weren't done against Full Power Vergil and Full Power Dante
My suggestion is: DT (?) Nero, at the very best, is comparable to Dante and Vergil, aaand this seems to be the best case
See Zero ? Dante on #1 alongside Nero and Vergil, looks biased for you ?
Another thing to consider is about Urizen's "planet shaking" feat, the report states that Urizen had the power to "shake the FOUNDATION of the world", the usage of the word "foundation" tells us that he didn't only shake the surface of the planet but he shook the deeper layers and possibly the very core, i have no idea where this places the feat but i personally thing that it places Fruit Urizen at moon level, since he performed this feat completely casually
It is a Low 6-B to 6-A feat
