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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread 13

Dante was a more serious character back in DMC1, right? I know DMC2 he was even more that or just edgy and stoic but at that time Itsuno had just became Kamiya's successor.

If he were to work around on Itsuno's Dante, that'd be okay I guess?

Then again, a "DMC0" game sounds more like it would be a game for Sparda or maybe another prequel game based on the DMC Novel of when Dante was Redgrave, would it not? I know the Yakuza series has a 0 title game but it was just a prequel on two of the main characters at a certain point in their life so if Capcom let Kamiya do a DMC0 game for this one time, I'd be bummed if it was just another Dante game instead of a Sparda game cuz personally I would play a game based on Dante and Vergil's pops in his old days.
 
Dante was cocky and cheesy in DMC1. There isn't prequel DMC novel with Dante in Redgrave but a DMC volume 1 and 2 game would be nice. I don't think I like the idea of a sparda game.
 
Yeah that's what I meant to say of the Volume 1 and 2...book(s)?

Well not saying another Dante centre game isn't bad. Although that would be nice, but wouldn't that be a time where Dante really only had Rebillion and E&I?
 
Qliphoth Bacikal said:
Yeah that's what I meant to say of the Volume 1 and 2...book(s)?
Well not saying another Dante centre game isn't bad. Although that would be nice, but wouldn't that be a time where Dante really only had Rebillion and E&I?
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Yea

I would want them as spin-off short games or expansions. Or they could be expanded and half a game could be volume 1 and the other volume 2. Or break 20 missions into volume 1, 2 and the 2 cd dramas.
 
They have way too little content in them for them to be games by themselves if they were made 1:1 following the events of the novels. Unless you change the genre of the game or just make the game short, that wouldn't work.
 
Thinking about it, yeah a would-be "Devil May Cry 0 game" would be better if it was just Dante again since DMC was mainly about him or at least have him involved in major demonic shit. And with Nero being another main face since 4, adding Sparda probably would be a while to get around especially after only hearing about him through in-universe lore.

DK how the game would handle that if it does what Yakuza did by having another young Dante game.

a Dante vs Bayonetta game on the other hand...how would Kamiya even do that if Capcom let him do it but he's only ever worked on DMC1 and Bayonetta 1 directly?
 
i wouldn't mind kamiya collabing with itsuno on a DMC game cuz that would be interesting tbh but itsuno i've gotten used to seeing his style of DMC
 
Vision of V chapter 17 https://********.org/chapter/822947/1

Now we can say Nero with mechanical arm >>>>>>>>>>>> Dante full power with Rebellion
 
Calling a pre-DSD Dante a bug was amusing, and Dante's nonchalant reaction to it too.
 
GinDan said:
Vision of V chapter 17 https://********.org/chapter/822947/1

Now we can say Nero with mechanical arm >>>>>>>>>>>> Dante full power with Rebellion
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We already knew that tho.
 
Dante didn't break the shield. The crystal is perfectly fine throughout the cutscenes and the ripples are just the effects of the clash between them.

Dante did fight Urizen for a long ass time though.
 
He break it, the crystal is fine because Urizen can repair it, Dante breaks multiple times in SDT and it repairs after some time

Just look at the link I posted, their clash at slow mo
 
I did look at it. The crystal is still perfectly fine, whenever the crystal is hit it always makes a glass shatter effect but when it's destroyed blue particle dust surround Urizen and fall to the ground which isn't what happened in Dante v Urizen 1.
 
We can clearly see the difference between the shield getting hit and how it breaks, when Dante clashes with Rebellion it just sparks and shows ripples but when destroyed both in gameplay and in the cutscene it shows the animation of shattering glass so yeah, Dante did break it with DSS
 
The glass shatter effect isn't an indicator the crystal is broke, cutscenes and gameplay proves that. The glass shatter effects appear when Dante fails the first clash and doesn't break the crystal or barrier. Skip to when Dante DT's and lunges at Urizen to see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FAsbpiRkXc

Dante didn't break the crystal
 
Nero did much better than Dante against Urizen, it's a fact. Using the visual effect to prove a point is a waste of time cuz Nero actually slashs Urizen and pisses him off and makes him get off his throne, compared to Urizen thinking Dante is not even worth getting off his throne for.

Urizen sent Dante into a one month coma with basically 2 direct hits.

Whatever it's an outlier or not is another story tho. I think Nero is a bit stronger than Dante at his peak, but him doing better than Dante against Urizen just because he got some new robotic arm is a bit iffy, even if you says Dante really broke Urizen shield in their first fight that would still makes Devil Breaker Nero comparable to DT Dante using DSS which is still a problem.
 
Indeed Nero was better, but it is a huge outlier for him

Probably one of the biggest in the series, alongside Trish reacting to Mundus' Beam and surviving a direct shot
 
Outliner? I think not. Preconceived notions of where his initial stage DMC5 stood against Dante might be the issue here; amongst other obvious factors motivated by bias--i.e liking Dante more than Nero.

Fact is, Nero progressed tremendously throughout DMC5 (all the descendents made ludicrous gains) and actually making Urizen get off his throne illustrated that progress; it justifies that Nero, contrary to Dante's previous statement, is not dead weight. Interesting, it seems V knew of the Boy's potential to succeed even if Dante failed.

The Nero feat is every bit as relevant and applicable because that's what the creator had in mind.
 
Yeah Nero makes some stupid gains throughout DMC5 and I am pretty sure the dmc4 novel mentioned something about Nero having far greater potential than Dante.
 
ZERO7772 said:
Nero did much better than Dante against Urizen, it's a fact. Using the visual effect to prove a point is a waste of time cuz Nero actually slashs Urizen and pisses him off and makes him get off his throne, compared to Urizen thinking Dante is not even worth getting off his throne for.
Urizen sent Dante into a one month coma with basically 2 direct hits.

Whatever it's an outlier or not is another story tho. I think Nero is a bit stronger than Dante at his peak, but him doing better than Dante against Urizen just because he got some new robotic arm is a bit iffy, even if you says Dante really broke Urizen shield in their first fight that would still makes Devil Breaker Nero comparable to DT Dante using DSS which is still a problem.
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DMC is inconsistent of power level just for an example

Dante SDT just pushed Urizen back without hurting him like Nero. M17 Dante destroy Urizen in base form. LOL

Or Yamato is most powerful weapon in DMC even Rebellion , DSD , DSS are weak compared to Yamato. But the most powerful weapon is DSS not Yamato. This series has no consistency
 
>DMC is inconsistent of power level just for an example

Not really but the series relies on Rule of Cool most of the time to make characters do something impossible sometimes

>Dante SDT just pushed Urizen back without hurting him like Nero. M17 Dante destroy Urizen in base form. LOL

Because Dante got there using SDT, at the end of the fight we can see Dante is mocking Urizen in base form giving us the idea that SDT was more than enough and Dante wanted to "hit some sense" into whatever 2as left of Vergil

>Or Yamato is most powerful weapon in DMC even Rebellion , DSD , DSS are weak compared to Yamato. But the most powerful weapon is DSS not Yamato. This series has no consistenc

AP wise DSD is the most powerful thing, ability wise Yamato is at the top since it can seal worlds, negate dura, open portals, etc.

In short, your points for "inconsistent power level" aren't inconsistent but more of a bad interpretation of things
 
Base Dante being stronger than Urizen is iffy. Yeah you see him in base after the fight is done but in gallery art Dante is shown using his SDT during his third battle with Urizen and as we know SDT has time limit so it not a reach to say Dane used SDT to beat up Urizen and then finished him in base.

Also, having Urizen surviving SDT Dante then having him lose to base Dante is stupid. Dante is also noted to be weaker by Vergil after his fight with Urizen.
 
How fast is Fury?

Since Demons evolve based on their deepest, darkest desire, wouldn't that mean that Lesser Demon could even fight some greater Demons given enough time and evolution?

Blitz is a Lesser Demon but if it evolved to the point of just seeing and adapting such that it doesn't hurt itself with lightning overload, I can see it competing with some weaker Bosses.

Proto Angelo seems to be on par with weaker bosses already.

Hell Judecca already looks to be on par with Hell Vanguard (they probably have identical rank in the Hierarchy actually)

Queen Empusa could perhaps pass too.

Fury's application of space/time power is something I don't see every Boss overcoming.

Anyway, what do you think? Which "Lesser" Demons could potentially trouble as Boss Demon?
 
https://********.org/chapter/847551/1

Some of you probably already read this but in case for those who didn't, the new chapter of VoV came out over a week ago.

This is now at the start of the prologue but ofc with V's perspective. Pretty neat fighting sequence we got, with Griffon and Shadow ofc mainly doing the work but then we got V doing the Royal Fork move on some demon mooks as well.

We also get reminded again that V's dying and even when he does things like eat and sleep, it doesn't replenish his energy.

At this point, V's shown to do well in commanding Shadow and Griffon to fight in combat and even by himself without having to rely on Nightmare unless the situation is really dire for him to let him out.
 
well tomorrow the next chapter comes out if not delayed like this one that said it came out before April and came out in the first week of April.
 
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