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Devil Host vs Baylord Doom
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In fact, Prime Doom scales to 53.56 Teratons, making the AP difference between him and Natch of 4.85x
But I still think it's fair, as Doom has Type 2 Immortality, a vastly superior Lifting Strength, and the AP difference between them isn't 7,5x that is needed for one-shot in a Versus Thread
I will give a more detailed comment shortly
But I still think it's fair, as Doom has Type 2 Immortality, a vastly superior Lifting Strength, and the AP difference between them isn't 7,5x that is needed for one-shot in a Versus Thread
I will give a more detailed comment shortly
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What prevents Doom from using his External Transformation to restrain Nacht with a far superior LS, transform him into a canine man, then control his mind and order him to kill himself?
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Nothing unless he has res to mind hax or sth
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Heavy sigh…
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So how far can bayblade see
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unsure but he can sense for kms
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So what about an attack with 2 large dogs from double Devil Union Nacht
Idk.. momentarily paralyzing him with a cry so he won’t exert LS to prevent himself from getting torn apart with shadow arms.
I guess maybe indistinguishable and indestructible shadow clones in numbers.
All of the above are exceptional in stealth which blocks the opponent from sensing him. And Clairvoyance which allows Nacht to see the battle from afar. Doubt Baylord will figure out his location.
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Baylord can paralyze with a roar so Baylord can very easily do so as well. Not 100% sure about this but given how shinsoo works the effect would be greater than what Nacht can do.
How big are these dogs? Kilometers in size or no? Baylord can release massive attacks as well to stop multiple attacks from coming at him.
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Nacht may have to come close for the cry, but he might still use shadows to paralyze him from afar. His shadow magic is several hundreds of kilometers in range (can teleport, create portals and he has casted a spell between two countries to watch the BB). How far can his roar be heard? And will he even know the general direction Nacht is in?
well.. how will shinsoo sensing work better than magic sensing. That’s just a claim you’re not 100% sure of UwU.
Dogs are not KM in size, they just spawn below him and have him for dinner. If it’s not time for a main course, clones can move from Nacht’s location to take care of the threat. and those clones surround their prey.
Oh and if you can prove Shinsoo sensing > mana sensing and the battle somehow gets close to about hundreds of meters, what is he gonna do about Manazone where Nacht removes all light in the area. Letting his shadow arms attack the opponent from all angles everywhere. He will sense Nacht or his magic everywhere which won’t help ig. A double devil Union + ManaZone amped Nacht should attack Baylord very very few times to win given the AP, Stealth and speed advantage.
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If Nacht removes light from the entire battle area, what prevents Doom from simply flying and using External Transformation to cover himself to protect from his shadows attacking from all directions? Unless he has an attack with a big Area of Effect, his External Transformation can instantly regenerate from Natch's attacks
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Um if it's just tp and portals, I Baylord can dodge the portals or even use his shinsoo control to immobilize Nacht as he comes from the portal, if he teleports he'll just be in Baylords range. Unsure exactly how far the roar is but its done with shinsoo so it should scale to his other shinsoo shockwaves but could be wrong. The direction probably doesn't matter since roars are omnidirectional given how sound works.
Lol they can sense for several kilometers, if Nacht like can't be sensed that's fine but at some point he's gonna have to come in close, in character he generally goes in close as well so I really don't think he's gonna stay hundreds of kilometers away.
Baangs, and Shinsoo blasts neg this.
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Shinsu sensing covers fightning completely with no light. Literally, one of the most basic ability of a good scout is sensing the shinsu in the dark to know where your enemy is.
He won't, that's not how shinsu sensing work, shinsu sensing has more than just sensing the: Inner flow of energy of enemies or the local high density shinsu(energy), but it also senses the location via sensing the shinsu around them.
Shinsu flows more than just in energy, it's the equivalent to the air they breath, the water, all around them, not only energy they create, it's inside others as well.
And shinsu is EXPLICITLY not magic.
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Pretty sure asta with precog couldnt even detect Nacht so its not that simple.
Um again Ki sensing in bc allows them to sense stuff in nature as well and Asta couldnt sense Nacht.
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Aren’t Shinsoo and Mana similar enough to be equalized?
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This seems similar to the ability of the Young Owl of the Owl Branch Family Head, which funnily enough Jinsung Ha thought the same "darkness will not affect a high ranker, I can just feel everything through the vibrations of shinsu all around me" until he noticed that it was a special darkness which nullified the senses of shinsu sensing, so far only users of shinwonryu(like 25th Baam) seem to have a direct counter of it by literally nullifying that darkness, which was sort of an AOE expansions a la Domain Expansion. Jinsung Ha could only do something when approached in CQC.
Yeah, in this case, Doom will use his external transformation to make a highly regenerating ball around him like he did when in a position of weakness, but unlike that time which he had a curse on his heart, here he can just nuke his surroundings by creating bangs all around him
In what sense do they do that? Can you post scans
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oh Ki is life energies that exists everywhere even inanimate objects. So sensing it helps Asta to predict things
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ridiculously cool, (in theory tho, would a Dragon Ball ki scouter be able to sense the ki of a rock in BC for example)
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Not this, I understood this, it was more of the inanimate things part, this also doesn't seems as EP, this is Analytical Prediction
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I don’t think it’s the same tbh but if it is then yeah.
reading the flow of Ki can then be used to predict.
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for the inanimate part @Arkenis should send where Yami said ki sensing prevents stuff like random falling rocks from hitting/killing them. It’s in the same fight.
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