Demon vs Sorcerer Hunter

[Passersby]

By dogwalking them in CqC despite already having been injured by her father prior (who she also beat despite him being an iado specialist with instinctive reaction)

first, these are nothing but a speed blitz, she gained an amp in her stats after her twin died making her comparable to toji and speed blitzed her father, you really said a buncha nothing here

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

and she has the advantage in stats here, but this is good, nothing near pillar level tho

Blocking spawn on target based on his senses and being able to coordinate such movements, would indeed be a skill feat. Once again, I'm not sure you quite understand what "skills" are. A lot of them inherently involve needing to coordinate high speed movements to meet skill objectives. Just being fast doesn't give one martial arts, weapons, and general CqC skill lol.

with a good enough preception and a fast enough speed, a normal untrained character can block or deflect attacks that can spawn on target

toji is skilled, never deined that, what you're bringing however doesn't even start to come close to bein near the ball park of the pillars

Speed + acrobatics/mobility, the latter require skill.

well, i will grant you that, point conceded

I will need more context, from what you showed she essentially predicted his attacks based on his stance and micromovements. That's one aspects of skills

giyuu is a he brother

that said

I'd argue that causally blocking spawn on target attacks to which Toji can't even see coming,

that would require reaction speed and and good senses at best, which toji has way more than enough due to his heavenly restriction, him blitzing the others help to establish my point that this is based on speed as well

and you ignored the part where he makes an entirely new technique that meshes with tanjiro's future movements and intantly and proficiently use it based on the information he gained in that split second. requires far better logistical and analytical skills than any information analysis feat you've shown

altough let me address them ig

If you want to talk about levels of information analysis, then I'd say Maki's feat of being able to casually sense the environment around her for dozens to hundreds of meters,

i will also point out how it's taking her her everything plus her full focus to actually perform any of this, altough this is at best with seaon 1 inosuke who can feel people from something like a hundred meters away due to the way air currents run on his skin and can sense killing intent by feeling it on his skin

and to further expand on some skill feats because using a single one when i have a plethora on hand seems kinda stupid

these are all performed by tanjiro

• managed to defeat Yoriichi Type Zero with its six arms and swords and 108 techniques (season 3)
• could adapt to fighting in a room where the orientation of gravity was constantly rotating while having broken ribs and feeling extreme pain just by walking (season 1)
• able to continuously dodge a total of six balls that were controlled by a demon using some weird invisible arrows that made them constantly follow him. (season 1)
• managed to merge two completely different sword styles to match the fight he was in despite being proficient in neither (season 2)
• was able to fully execute his Breath of Water's Techniques on top of a moving train despite being constantly put into sleep and having to wake up by killing himself inside the dream. (mugen train)
• He has consistent feats of being able to fight competently mid-air.
• He was able to effectively fight underwater despite being in that situation for the first time (season 1)
• He can utilize the Breath of Water in conjunction with the hinokami kagura in order to reduce the strain on his stamina and utilize some of the properties of the Breath of Water to his advantage, an idea he spontaneously came up with and implemented in the middle of afight(season2)
• He was able to create Waltz Flash to boost his speed based on a memory of Zenitsu explaining his Breath of Thunder while chasing uppermoon 4 despite this being supposed to be a difficult thing to do. (season 3)
• He can spontaneously create modified versions of his Forms to adapt to a situation or opponent.(happened all seasons)
• can smell the future...somehow (yes it's a hing)

tese feats are from season 3 tanjiro at best, and he is not even pillar level in terms of skill at this point


and to expand on how skilled they actually are from the prior feat,giyuu, with no precog of his own,managed to fight against akaza, a guy who can instinctively aim for his opponent's weak points and vitals with an accuracy so high his attacks were described to be quitle lietral magnets, and who tanjiro even deemed his attacks to beunavoidable while he can literally smell the future, only reason he managed to dodge is he unlocked a "superior" sens, and that is the STW

altough for the best info analysis feat the verse has is kokushibo reading someone else's genome (muichiro )in seconds and accurately deducing their ancestry

so much so that her senses across categorical distinction, allow her to "see the souls of inanimate things",

that can't really help her in any way,

how good are her senses in an actual 1v1 fight to the death against an opponent who actually has a better strategy than just bull rushing straigh towards her

and allow her to legit track high speed movements over an extremely large range,

movements that can be described as a simple bull rush towards, she was basically aim dodging extremely simple attacks

you're overblowing this out of the water

and casually no look mid air dodge mach 3 enemies, kinda dumps on the small section of panels you've shown. Even before gaining this ability Maki was able to count the individual frames of Naoya, something very few other sorcerers in the verse could achieve.

that really isn't as imprssive, as if any of that is actually better than the first panel i've showed you where giyuu pretty much predicts the future trough sheer mental calcs in a split second as well as make an entire new technique to mesh with tanjiro's own movement based on those calcs would happen then performing it flawlessly without breaking a sweat

you've yet to show any feat with planning, adaptibility battle int and skill on this level, because you really can't get much higher than this tbh

I still haven't actually seen any skills besides this one feat which doesn't even seem to be in a combat scenario.

I want to see actual feats in combat such as this [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

you think?
it just seems like you're dodging the feat tbh, i already provided some more anyways you show me a feat half as good as the one i've shown

Ok? Yuji was inside of a hallway

..and?
bo jumped btw the spaces of those whips

let's see him dodging something like this when the opponent isn't focusing on multiple targets but solely on him

. This version of Yuji being <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Toji.

that's hard to quantify ain't it but i get the gist

Toji can legit sense every micromovement of the whips as they move through the air

as can BOS inosuke, who is also <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< any pillar

yet they all still got ******, and there were five of them toji isn't beating something 5 pillars failed to defeat while his regen was getting weaker and weaker to to some fictional bs drug specifically made to f him over

also even if you can sens something, doesn't mean you can dodge it

Yes, my point is Yuji was capable of this during like, the first arc.

oh well, tanjiro and muichiro who managed to defeat Yoriichi Type Zero (the latter did it rather effortlessly)with its six arms and swords and 108 techniques is still far better than any of that really

Yuji is leagues below Toji so just bringing up "he has whips" isn't really doing much.

the point is he has 5 times more limbs, aka toji is ******, just because yuji dodged 3 whips once doesn't mean he is some untouchable monster who will never be hit by them had mahito acually continued exploiting their range and attacking him instead of opting for a far less ranged weapon like a dumbass

I could explain how even Kenjaku would outskill everyone from KT,

...yeah, sure you can

but whatever

Especially when Toji can use his powernull sword and attach it to an ever expanding chain giving him crazy range and the ability to utilize it as a chain as well.

you mean ISOH?
what's that going to do other than stab him?

Tanjiro isn't really landing anything on Toji given the latter's senses.

so he is just going to get closer at all?

he won't be hit agaisnt agaisnt an opponent who will always follow him, has far better range, and will incapitate him in seconds if he was ever hit?

unless your point is toji will always be running away form DKT i guess?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

yeah, sure you can

Why you ignored the other half

 

[Passersby]

Why you ignored the other half

right,apologies

the pillars got tagged, we're arguing skill to see if toji is skilled enough to dodge what 5 pillars combined couldn't

altough you can make the argument that it was just muzan being stronger and faster, but oh well

toji is still losing this 100% as tanjiro being animalistic and not giving a f about anything works against him as he will just continue attacking him with 5 times more limbs not caring about the damage he himself suffers from during the process

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

the pillars got tagged,

Yeah, Tanjiro, who is even stronger than Muzan, could tag pillars that were dying of exhaustion, severely injured, who themself werent capable to keep up agaisnt a weakned Muzan
Sure

toji is still losing this 100% as tanjiro being animalistic and not giving a f about anything works against him as he will just continue attacking him with 5 times more limbs not caring about the damage he himself suffers from during the process

Just no. Toji is more than skilled enough to dodge some giants libs from a animalistc creature. Even Itadori in Shibuya could easly dodge Mahito's tentacles danmaku without much trouble, that by itself are more vast than Tanjiro's

 

[SunDaGamer]

We also know this given that Toji is unable to get drunk, meaning his body literally does not process toxins such as alcohol despite how much he drinks. Alcohol doesn't have cursed energy.

Alcohol poisoning isn't anywhere near comparable to Muzan's blood vaporizing people Eso and Kechizu required 10 minutes to decay a human and Choso's blood didn't even immediately affect Uraume or Naoya, Muzan's Bio Deconstruction is far more potent, Toji would need to show resistance to poison on that level otherwise it's NLF

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Alcohol poisoning isn't anywhere near comparable to Muzan's blood vaporizing people Eso and Kechizu required 10 minutes to decay a human and Choso's blood didn't even immediately affect Uraume or Naoya, Muzan's Bio Deconstruction is far more potent, Toji would need to show resistance to poison on that level otherwise it's NLF

So I'm taking it you didn't read my whole response? I brought that up because it was stated that Toji's immunities and resistances only come from CE resistance, which is not the case.

Likewise, even though Toji's resistances are a level lower, he has shown outright immunity those lower levels. Not being able to get drunk means his body is just straight up immune to alcohol and said toxic effects, in addition to the degrading effects of CE.

So the idea Muzan is throwing blood and toji's shirt and melting him instantly, is wild.

 

[Passersby]

Yeah, Tanjiro, who is even stronger than Muzan, could tag pillars that were dying of exhaustion, severely injured, who themself werent capable to keep up agaisnt a weakned Muzan

i was talking about the muzan fight?

Just no. Toji is more than skilled enough to dodge some giants libs from a animalistc creature.

yeah sure, sure he can, would you like to tell me how he can actually dodge them then?

Even Itadori in Shibuya could easly dodge Mahito's tentacles danmaku

danmaku as in 3 lmao

yuji dodged an unexprienced first time ever mahito's whip attack once by jumping btw them and eploiting the gaps, that's cool

so because he did that, he now shall face no trouble dodging a constant barrage of attacks of a much higher caliber and quantity?

yeah, no, the pillars can even overwhelm a doll with six arms and 108 sword techniques effortlessly and still have trouble with muzan, you're convincing anyone but yourself

hat by itself are more vast than Muzan's

citation needed

 

[Passersby]

So the idea Muzan is throwing blood and toji's shirt and melting him instantly, is wild.

marked pillars, aka the people with the most resistance get affected pretty much instantly

matter of fact, this where they were hit, then the very next panel we see that mitsuri instantly fell to her knees, then we see this muzan state this, meaning without the mark they'd actually drop dead

when the pillars bring muzan to the surface, it was still an hour and half till sunrise, then some time passes until he finally hits them with his blood, in the chapter you mentioned, 16 minutes passed,

meaning in less than 20 minutes, the people with most resistance to his blood in the series would die, and without the mark boosting their resistance further, they would been incapitated at the very least from the first blood intake

toji isn't surving after a single hit

 

[Dr._whiteee]

-snip-

I didn't say if he landed, I said "splashing blood onto Toji" as was claimed earlier in this thread.

Tanjiro is never tagging Toji who can read every micromovement of his via the environment, MadJiro is getting outskilled, and Toji only needs to cut him once.

I'll be back later to dive into your skill stuff, but it seems that doesn't matter if Tanjiro isn't in his right state of mind here.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

was talking about the muzan fight

And we are talking about Demon Tanjiro

yeah sure, sure he can, would you like to tell me how he can actually dodge them then?

yuji dodged an unexprienced first time ever mahito's whip attack once by jumping btw them and eploiting the gaps, that's cool

so because he did that, he now shall face no trouble dodging a constant barrage of attacks of a much higher caliber and quantity?

Much higher caliber and quatity, sure sure. That shit is pathetic. Beside, that limbs can be easly slashed by the soul split katana that LITERALLY ignores all kinds of dura

yeah, no, the pillars can even overwhelm a doll with six arms and 108 sword techniques effortlessly and still have trouble with muzan, you're convincing anyone but yourself

Irrelevant since Demon Tanjiro doesnt scale and Muzan is only capable to keep up with Pillars via his superior stats

And this remembers me that Kimetsu need to be downgraded to 8-C with supersonic speeds

 

[speedster352]

I didn't say if he landed, I said "splashing blood onto Toji" as was claimed earlier in this thread.

Tanjiro is never tagging Toji who can read every micromovement of his via the environment, MadJiro is getting outskilled, and Toji only needs to cut him once.

I'll be back later to dive into your skill stuff, but it seems that doesn't matter if Tanjiro isn't in his right state of mind here.

Why won’t the shock waves work on toji? I already explained that they worked on the slayers who can resist Muzan passive fear aura that paralyzes and hurts the victim. So it’s above average paralysis and also it’s not CE so it should work on toji then he gets hit with the whips.

And we are talking about Demon Tanjiro





Much higher caliber and quatity, sure sure. That shit is pathetic

Irrelevant since Demon Tanjiro doesnt scale and Muzan is only capable to keep up with Pillars via his superior stats

And this remembers me that Kimetsu need to be downgraded to 8-C with supersonic speeds

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Why won’t the shock waves work on toji? I already explained that they worked on the slayers who can resist Muzan passive fear aura that paralyzes and hurts the victim. So it’s above average paralysis and also it’s not CE so it should work on toji then he gets hit with the whips.

Irrelevant, sorcerors can also resist paralyzing fear inducing aura. I saw your arguments about Toji not scaling to Kashimo physically and obviously don't agree. I already showed you Maki flat out resisting a direct mind related paralysis as well.

 

[SunDaGamer]

By dogwalking them in CqC despite already having been injured by her father prior (who she also beat despite him being an iado specialist with instinctive reaction) [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

• Unconventional Instinctive Action (Falling Blossom Emotion is an anti-domain technique that coats the user in curse energy that counter-attacks incoming attacks[1]. Ōgi's use of it is applied to his sword, anything that comes into contact with it gets attacked by the sword[2])

Ogi didn't have Falling Blossom Emotion active, he released his Innate Technique instead before Maki blitzed him

Blocking spawn on target based on his senses and being able to coordinate such movements, would indeed be a skill feat. Once again, I'm not sure you quite understand what "skills" are. A lot of them inherently involve needing to coordinate high speed movements to meet skill objectives. Just being fast doesn't give one martial arts, weapons, and general CqC skill lol.

He was cut by a scissor then multiple scissors spawned around him but they were basically stationary, all Toji did was pull out the ISoH and flail it around quickly, that's not really much of a skill feat, having hand coordination at your reaction speed level is usually a given.

Ok? Yuji was inside of a hallway and those whips were fast and covered dozens of meters. This version of Yuji being <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Toji. Toji can legit sense every micromovement of the whips as they move through the air. Add in his much better mobility and only needing to tag Tanjiro once, and I don't see how he's doing much.

• Perception Amplification, Information Analysis, Enhanced Sight, Analytical Prediction, and Precognition with Transparent World (Transparent World makes his perception of time slow down and makes the user directly see their opponent's muscles, blood flow and movements which allows them to predict their next moves. Gyomei is capable of exactly imagining the opponent instead of seeing him, and can sense them)

Yeah, no, Mahito's whips and Muzan's whips are no where near comparable if Muzan can tag people with Transparent World

Even before gaining this ability Maki was able to count the individual frames of Naoya

Superhuman perception speed

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yeah, no, Mahito's whips and Muzan's whips are no where near comparable if Muzan can tag people with Transparent World

Muzan literally speedblitz them
I agree that some feats that White said arent really skill feats at all
But bitch, we are talking about a mf who act like a animal and had used only five tentacles and could barely do anything against opponents that were already massively weaker than him

Thats not Muzan, THATS DEMON TANJIRO

 

[SunDaGamer]

Irrelevant, sorcerors can also resist paralyzing fear inducing aura

I already explained that they worked on the slayers who can resist Muzan passive fear aura that paralyzes and hurts the victim

There's layers to this

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Ogi didn't have Falling Blossom Emotion active, he released his Innate Technique instead before Maki blitzed him

He is implied to use that when utilizing his Iado, especially given that he used it vs a Maki he didn't view as a threat (and obviously knew she didn't have a domain). So given he caught Toji vibes and immediately went into defense mode, it's pretty reasonable to assume he was using it as well there.

He was cut by a scissor then multiple scissors spawned around him but they were basically stationary, all Toji did was pull out the ISoH and flail it around quickly, that's not really much of a skill feat, having hand coordination at your reaction speed level is usually a given.

Yeah no, the scissors manifested all around him without him being able to see and he cut them prior to them chopping him up.

I don't think you know about actual skill with weapons if you're saying accomplishing what Toji did with his sword doesn't require skill. It's much more than "flailing a blade around".

Yeah, no, Mahito's whips and Muzan's whips are no where near comparable if Muzan can tag people with Transparent World

That's not really impressive. It's bootleg sharingan/kinetic vision. That's completely different to the vision maki has which gives her information directly from the environment itself and not just the users.

Superhuman perception speed

Along with material arts skill. I seriously don't think you guys know what skill actually entails lol.

 

[speedster352]

Irrelevant, sorcerors can also resist paralyzing fear inducing aura. I saw your arguments about Toji not scaling to Kashimo physically and obviously don't agree. I already showed you Maki flat out resisting a direct mind related paralysis as well.

Cool doesn’t apply to toji since he is not a sorcerer. Also that was still a curse technique that she broke trough. The shockwaves work like this Here And here Here

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Cool doesn’t apply to toji since he is not a sorcerer. Also that was still a curse technique that she broke trough. The shockwaves work like this Here And here Here

It does, because the sorcs are granted that resistance from the passive effect of curses, which Toji is immune to.

Ok? What does it being a cursed technique have to do with anything?

 

[Passersby]

And we are talking about Demon Tanjiro

who scales to muzan

Much higher caliber and quatity, sure sure. That shit is pathetic

bro was holding back at the time iirc

if you're using that version who still holds back and doesn't actually want to kill anyone then toji wins

Irrelevant since Demon Tanjiro doesnt scale and Muzan is only capable to keep up with Pillars via his superior stats

the latter is a good point ig, i was thinking about that as well, toji still isn't as skilled as the pillars tho

And this remembers me that Kimetsu need to be downgraded to 8-C with supersonic speeds

...yeah, this just shows your spite and nothing more

not that it matters, nor do i care about the rating on this site anymore ig

and you said a whole lot of nothing, if you don't want to argue, just state as such

I didn't say if he landed, I said "splashing blood onto Toji" as was claimed earlier in this thread.

pretty sure you need to get the blood in your system for it to work, i agree then

MadJiro is getting outskilled, and Toji only needs to cut him once.

DKT has no skills, nothing to outskill here really, just the sheer number of whips is the problem

I'll be back later to dive into your skill stuff, but it seems that doesn't matter if Tanjiro isn't in his right state of mind here.

i will probably dip out, i have exams and stuff, and knowing me if you respond i will the urge to responf back, so i'm quietly unfollowing the thread


and as a side note

That's not really impressive. It's bootleg sharingan/kinetic vision. That's completely different to the vision maki has which gives her information directly from the environment itself and not just the users.

the STW is superior to a sens of smell that literally tell the future, while tanjiro smelled nothing but death, unlocking the STW allowed him to actually dodge akaza's attacks

it's the actual pinnacle of sensory preception in DS


anyways
see ya!

 

[speedster352]

It does, because the sorcs are granted that resistance from the passive effect of curses, which Toji is immune to.

Ok? What does it being a cursed technique have to do with anything?

Toji heavenly restriction allows him to resist curses and CE. It’s an inverse thing. Toji is not a sorcerer he has zero curse energy so he doesn’t scale to sorcerer resistances.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Toji heavenly restriction allows him to resist curses and CE. It’s an inverse thing. Toji is not a sorcerer he has zero curse energy so he doesn’t scale to sorcerer resistances.

I literally already proved this wrong my guy. Heavenly restriction isn't just limited to CE resistance. He's overall superhuman, to the point where he gets cursed resistance despite having no CE. Toji interacting with grade 2 curses and above and not being isntagimped by their aura means he factually has resistance. That isn't up for debate. Toji being immune to natural toxins without CE also proves this is not something only relegated to CE resistance, his body is naturally more resistant to phenomena.

 

[speedster352]

Can someone get the demon slayer supporters?

 

[SunDaGamer]

Yeah no, the scissors manifested all around him without him being able to see and he cut them prior to them chopping him up.

I don't think you know about actual skill with weapons if you're saying accomplishing what Toji did with his sword doesn't require skill. It's much more than "flailing a blade around".

Toji's HR senses should mean that detecting their presence is no issue. I know what skills with weapons are, what I'm saying is that Toji's feat is unimpressive because all he did was swing the ISoH at some objects around him while standing which is something possible for real life humans to do, something like 10,000 flying fish being flung at Muichiro and him slicing them all in one leap before he can touch the ground then proceeding to spin and deflect their corpses before their poison can touch him all the while poison was already coursing through his body is leagues more impressive.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

something like 10,000 flying fish being flung at Muichiro and him slicing them all in one leap before he can touch the ground then proceeding to spin and deflect their corpses before their poison can touch him all the while poison was coursing through his body is leagues more impressive.

Tbf that was speedblitz

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Toji's HR senses should mean that detecting their presence is no issue. I know what skills with weapons are, what I'm saying is that Toji's feat is unimpressive because all he did was swing the ISoH at some objects around him while standing which is something possible for real life humans to do, something like 10,000 flying fish being flung at Muichiro and him slicing them all in one leap before he can touch the ground then proceeding to spin and deflect their corpses before their poison can touch him all the while poison was already coursing through his body is leagues more impressive.

This is indeed impressive so thank you for actually posting the feats. I will say however that the fish are not really agile targets, so while impressive from Tanjiro's swordsmanship, it isn't really against impressive opponents. So I'd say it's pretty similar to Toji taking on all of Dagon's domain fish (which was expanded upon to be much more impressive in the secondary canon).

Can you provide more Tanjiro skills feats/feats he'd scale to?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

For the fu.cking sake
Why are you guys are still debating Tanjiro's skill when the mf has this in the intelligence section

Animalistic (Is only driven by Muzan's final will to eradicate the Demon Slayer Corps)

He is literally a animal and act as such. Tanjiro in this key couldn't even kill any Pillar despite exhaustion, like Tomioka, who himself was previously speedblized by Muzan
We could assume that Toji is only an average martial artist and he would still be more skilled

 

[speedster352]

For the fu.cking sake
Why are you guys are still debating Tanjiro's skill when the mf has this in the intelligence section

He is literally a animal and act as such. Tanjiro in this key couldn't even kill any Pillar despite exhaustion, like Tomioka, who himself was previously speedblized by Muzan
We could assume that Toji is only an average martial artist and he would still be more skilled

Again he would start off with the shockwave then whips. Anyway this is the last time I am replying here.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Here you go

Can I get the chapter number?

 

[Uzukeas]

counting Dr.Whites vote for Toji Fushiguro.
Also, Tanjiro has a few other wincons.
He can blow himself up in similar fashion to muzan into thousands of little pieces, which one do them will certainly tag Toji.

If Toji enters H2H, he will certainly be tagged by one of the many violent, unpredictable whips beings lashed right at him. Which will result in his death.

Toji also has no proof and or feats of resisting aura manipulation, Rantas technique is based off cursed energy, and we know heavenly restriction users can resist cursed energy based techniques anyway, so please stop mentioning Maki reissuing that technique.
Also, Maki was just that much stronger than Ranta, it’s not a resistance to paralysis ability, it’s simply Rantas ability being trash.

DKT wins via paralysing Toji and hitting him with one of his tentacle whip thingies. Or, DKT wind because if Toji enters CQC, he will most definitely get hit by the explosion of his body, or one of his many tentacles.

 

[Passersby]

counting Dr.Whites vote for Toji Fushiguro.

ah yes, forgot to vote

i vote DKT

Can you provide more Tanjiro skills feats/feats he'd scale to?

..uhh, still dipping out, but i kinda did give some

• managed to defeat Yoriichi Type Zero with its six arms and swords and 108 techniques (season 3)
• could adapt to fighting in a room where the orientation of gravity was constantly rotating while having broken ribs and feeling extreme pain just by walking (season 1)
• able to continuously dodge a total of six balls that were controlled by a demon using some weird invisible arrows that made them constantly follow him. (season 1)
• managed to merge two completely different sword styles to match the fight he was in despite being proficient in neither (season 2)
• was able to fully execute his Breath of Water's Techniques on top of a moving train despite being constantly put into sleep and having to wake up by killing himself inside the dream. (mugen train)
• He has consistent feats of being able to fight competently mid-air.
• He was able to effectively fight underwater despite being in that situation for the first time (season 1)
• He can utilize the Breath of Water in conjunction with the hinokami kagura in order to reduce the strain on his stamina and utilize some of the properties of the Breath of Water to his advantage, an idea he spontaneously came up with and implemented in the middle of afight(season2)
• He was able to create Waltz Flash to boost his speed based on a memory of Zenitsu explaining his Breath of Thunder while chasing uppermoon 4 despite this being supposed to be a difficult thing to do. (season 3)
• He can spontaneously create modified versions of his Forms to adapt to a situation or opponent.(happened all seasons)
• can smell the future...somehow (yes it's a hing)

altough these are more battle int, talent and how he well he adapts mid battle more than anything

you can get a rough idea from there

 

[speedster352]

Can I get the chapter number?

I think chapter 180

 

[LaserPrecision]

I think chapter 180

Thank you.

 

[Vietthai96]

Wtf, Tanjiro is completely animalistic in this state, and he close to featless aside from wiping the floor with the extremely weakened pillar then get revert back to human with this feat is purely superior stats feat rather than skill feat, where all the skill thing and blood injecting come from??, he never once do it, and blood injecting require Tanjiro to inject extremely large amount of blood to make cells deconstruct, small blood do no shit aside from trying to transform the victim into demon, which again he never did, the guy only theoretically has Muzan abilities which arguably, can only show if there is a hypothetical situation where he continue to live as Demon, which never exist except in fanfiction

 

[Duedate8898]

What's the arguments going for either side right now?

 

[Vietthai96]

What's the arguments going for either side right now?

Idk about JJK side, but DS side is Tanjirou outskill, blood deconstruction thing iirc

 

[Duedate8898]

Demon Tanjirou straight up has no skills though. He fights like an animal and seeing as he did bite Nezuko but she wasn't deconstructing it doesn't look like he uses the ability in character. If that's all he's got going on, I'll give it to Toji.

Smarter, stronger, and the perfect weapon for the job with the demon soul katana, he should be able to take this win without too much struggle.

 

[speedster352]

Cool doesn’t apply to toji since he is not a sorcerer. Also that was still a curse technique that she broke trough. The shockwaves work like this Here And here Here

Wtf, Tanjiro is completely animalistic in this state, and he close to featless aside from wiping the floor with the extremely weakened pillar then get revert back to human with this feat is purely superior stats feat rather than skill feat, where all the skill thing and blood injecting come from??, he never once do it, and blood injecting require Tanjiro to inject extremely large amount of blood to make cells deconstruct, small blood do no shit aside from trying to transform the victim into demon, which again he never did, the guy only theoretically has Muzan abilities which arguably, can only show if there is a hypothetical situation where he continue to live as Demon, which never exist except in fanfiction

Again he would start off with the shockwaves and then the blood whips also
Here you go

 

[Duedate8898]

Again he would start off with the shockwaves and then the blood whips also
Here you go

Tanjiro does not start off with the shockwaves either. He starts just swiping and his own scream does not do what Muzan does. Everyone got up right after Tanjiro did this, unlike when Muzan did it. Hence why your scans are only of Muzan's shockwave

 

[speedster352]

Tanjiro does not start off with the shockwaves either. He starts just swiping and his own scream does not do what Muzan does. Everyone got up right after Tanjiro did this, unlike when Muzan did it. Hence why your scans are only of Muzan's shockwave

DKT was fighting against Muzan because of Nezuko and his friends. He won’t in this instance and it very likely that Muzan would be able to take over and then win the fight since it’s possible that DKT was stronger than Muzan or had more potential depending on the translation. Anyway it doesn’t change the fact that a small scratch will cause deconstruction.

 

[Duedate8898]

Seeing as Giyu didn't suffer the effects when Tajiro slashed him, nor Nezuko as she was keeping a death grip, nor anyone else when Tanjiro formed his spines and smacked them all away Tanjiro also doesn't appear to use that in character.

You're arguing for a Tanjiro we don't ever get to see