Demon King Daimao downgrade ig

[Antvasima]

Everybody please stop derailing.

Also, thank you for helping out DontTalk. If you write a post detailing your arguments in an easy to understand manner, I can call all of the other bureaucrats, consultants, administrators, content moderators, and discussion moderators afterwards, if you wish.

 

[Swerzye29038]

So the universes in one of the most "powerful" verses on the wiki are Solar System sized

 

[Malomtek]

Just chipping in to say that I'm neutral for now. @DontTalkDT sounds pretty knowledgeable with the verse, and I don't want to make a snap decision then look like a fool as all the information actually comes out.

 

[Tarang123]

Just chipping in to say that I'm neutral for now. @DontTalkDT sounds pretty knowledgeable with the verse, and I don't want to make a snap decision then look like a fool as all the information actually comes out.

This is definitely a valid opinion, tho the OP has some very interesting points

 

[Teezar]

So the universes in one of the most "powerful" verses on the wiki are Solar System sized

Why I don't trust novel verses.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Alright, I have finished writing my reply, but will only post it tomorrow evening. Sorry about the delay.
It's just that I want to proofread it once more in peace when I'm relaxed.... As you can guess that reply is quite long, since it goes into as much detail as I could find the will to write.
(almost 12000 words)

 

[Rikimarox2]

12000 words

What the **** did you write, a Bible?

 

[DontTalkDT]

What the **** did you write, a Bible?

I tried to remember what I learned in school regarding the writing of a literature-based argument.
(and I'm just very dedicated to the cause... in a sense)

 

[Livinmeme]

Wait is to debunk it or to rea firm it

 

[Kuro4416]

(almost 12000 words)

Your reply is like wanting to write a novel, but I might like it

 

[Tarang123]

Alright, I have finished writing my reply, but will only post it tomorrow evening. Sorry about the delay.
It's just that I want to proofread it once more in peace when I'm relaxed.... As you can guess that reply is quite long, since it goes into as much detail as I could find the will to write.
(almost 12000 words)

I'm a little confused as to how it takes that long to write a single reply. It better be a hilariously long reply that I probably will take an hour to read cause of how long it is.

 

[TokiNoOuja]

almost 12000 words

Gosh,well played DT

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out DontTalk. It is appreciated.

 

[The_25th_Bam]

Zeno erases the verse would be funny

Lol this is fun

 

[The_25th_Bam]

Most of the time when yuri and darksmash say something it ends up being correct, and here both of them agree with the downgrade so list me as neutral on everything leaning towards agreement, to make sure I don’t appear like some1 who’s just arguing for the sake of the verse being stronk
tier 4 = stronk
But I still do have some questions for darksmash’s response:

“The reason they say that afterlife's existence proves that the world is "fictional" is quite clearly stated:

Afterlife's existence means death inside the world isn't real, and characters coming back implies someone is controlling it from outside, meaning the world isn't real but has an illusory meaning. Never once is it stated that Afterlife's existence proves the world is fictional because afterlife sees the world as fiction.”

So if I understand this correctly your saying that the r>f stuff is just the characters interpretation of fictional death, that since death in the real world is fake and that the world being real or not only depends on humanity observing it or not.

but it’s stated that this death does not exist within the afterlife;

“This was a world where they did not die and could not die” - chap 3 volume 13


Yet the afterlife is also fictional:

"If the world we lived in was fictional、then the afterlife is also fictional” - chap 3 volume 13

so essentially even without the “fictional death” we see the afterlife being fictional.
also it being “less real” isn’t exactly contradictory to the r>f, obviously if it was ONLY stated to be “less real” then it wouldn’t warrant r>f, but it can be “less real” and fiction at the same time. No?

@Darksmash

Wow, great work must have taken a lot of time to give this detailed explaination.

 

[DontTalkDT]

So, for reasons I explain at the beginning of the post I made a separate thread to debate whether reality-fiction levels apply. Once that's done we can continue debating the other points here or in more separate threads.

Let's try to keep that thread free of off-topic talk, yes?

 

[Malomtek]

Looking at what DTDT just linked, I'm starting to lean more on his side of the argument for now.

 

[DontTalkDT]

If you write a post detailing your arguments in an easy to understand manner, I can call all of the other bureaucrats, consultants, administrators, content moderators, and discussion moderators afterwards, if you wish.

Just to make sure you see it: I have done so. Thank you for always helping with getting input for threads.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem. I will check through your thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Should I close this thread, so we continue in DontTalk's thread, then?

 

[Kuro4416]

Should I close this thread, so we continue in DontTalk's thread, then?

I just agree

 

[Sus]

Yeah, but it's not a permanent closure since there's still many things to discuss other than RFDs

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You can mention in the other thread when I should reopen this one then.