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Demon Bamboo Vergo vs Black Sperm (0/7/0) GRACE
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Darkshine is baseline High 7-A possibly higher, and Golden S no selled him and one shotted.
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I change the OP because Some reasons please read the ******* comment above before you did a fulmination.
WrongIdea21
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So, what value exactly he got? 7 Gigatons?
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He just Massively upscales from someone who upscales from 1 Gigaton.
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I am referring to the speed rating
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possibly Relativistic+with Soru
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lower*
WrongIdea21
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It negates up to mid. Black Sperm has Low-High regen.
WrongIdea21
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Funny, higher rating? Vergo had it too.
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Then change the OP. Dont get mad at me when you didn't add your changes.
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Haki can negate to High, lol.
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WrongIdea21
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Haki can negate Kizaru High regen.
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It negated his devil fruit abilites. It negated his loga fruit, so he didn't regen
WrongIdea21
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Maybe you want to make a crt?
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Currently doing that lol
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They are unreliable… also law is also possibly relativistic
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Don't forget to link me.
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Haki is already mid regen neg….
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I don’t know if it’s supposed to be updated or anything but it hasn’t
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Yeah I still never got that.
Why would haki be able to negate regen from other verses if it's whole premise is that it's used to counteract Devil Fruit abilities/regen. It can't negate other regen unless it get equalized (which is near impossible since most verses don't have similar power systems like Haki)
Why would haki be able to negate regen from other verses if it's whole premise is that it's used to counteract Devil Fruit abilities/regen. It can't negate other regen unless it get equalized (which is near impossible since most verses don't have similar power systems like Haki)
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Because devil fruit are fully natural and not spiritual or magical…
WrongIdea21
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Me too, but this wiki Said otherwise.
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Yeah I get that.
I'm just saying why can haki negate regen outside of their verse, if it can't be equalized. It's meant to counteract DF regen/abilities.
Like for example. PTS Naruto can regen using Kurama's chakra. Why would haki be able to negate his healing if:
a) Chakra =/= Haki
b) Haki (specifically armament) is used to counter Devil Fruit abilities, nullifying them, which INCLUDES fruits that have regen (like logias, or Marco). So if you have regen outside of that general power system, why would Haki be able to negate it?
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Yeah it's a bit confusing, I was planning on making a CRT about it but it seems that Kachon has already made one. I'll voice my thoughts/opinions there
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Move it here please
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Forget devil fruit… if Luffy resisted normal fire would he not resist the fire in a different verse? If Luffy resists cuts would he not resist cuts in a different verse? Yes he would (depends on how the fire and cut works) but instead those resistances comes from devil fruits….
That’s how I could explain it for now
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Hmm yeah but I'm talking specifically Haki and regen negation. Cause I don't seem to understand why when it comes to equalizing, they need to fit a specific criteria for it to work, but when it comes to regen it's just like: "As long as you can regen, no matter how you do it, Haki can negate it" I feel like it should have to fit the same criteria as when it comes to equalization, but then again I may just be confused and need some clarificationForget devil fruit… if Luffy resisted normal fire would he not resist the fire in a different verse? If Luffy resists cuts would he not resist cuts in a different verse? Yes he would (depends on how the fire and cut works) but instead those resistances comes from devil fruits….
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It doesn’t work against all regeneration
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Sorry I meant all "High regen" (or whatever it reaches to)
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It’s mid regen negation via Marco since he regenerates his true body not like logia who regens elements
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Huh now I'm confused
Is Marco's healing > Logia healing?
(Also this is a massive derailment we should continue it in the other thread..)
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Ok, there any misconception about Haki Neg High regen so... Lets continue this thread.
Any way, Black Sperm still can't damaged Vergo in his Black form and need to used Golden sperm to reach stats above 1 Gigatons.
Any way, Black Sperm still can't damaged Vergo in his Black form and need to used Golden sperm to reach stats above 1 Gigatons.
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To me this match doesn't really work... Vergo can blitz and fly...
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Haki negates Mid regeneration, not Low-High and especially not High levels of regeneration. Not sure where Wrong Idea even came up with that.
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