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Delta VS Piccolo
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IIRC
This version of Goku seems to upscales above from Roshi's Sub-Rel+ Feat
While Delta scales to New Era SPSM Naruto who scales above Edo Madara's Rel Feat
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Delta is looking faster then, but idk for sure myself since idk any calcs.
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It seems this Goku scales far above 0.10c or Baseline Rel, while Delta scales far above 0.28c (Rel)
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So Delta is stronger and faster and has the one shot beam. I vote delta to win then I guess
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I can equalize speed if necessary.
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You should.
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I could change it to Saiyan Saga Goku's 5-C key, too, if that'd be more fair.
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Aint it still a one shot?
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The Saiyan Saga key is "At least 5-C".
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Delta AP stomps, she's 13x stronger. There is no other key where this is fair since goku's next key is him at 19 zettatons which is 49x stronger than delta so he AP stomps harder. Change it to Piccolo or something since he is massively above 177 exatons so the difference is only 2.2x and piccolo can close that gap because he is far above that value.
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even then Delta is superior to someone who can one shot Toneri
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Don't even get me started on the amount of ">" signs there are infront of piccolo's 177 exatons.
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Naruto is probably not even far behind from that For example here is the Last only Full BSM Naruto>>50% BSM Naruto>>>>Tenseigan Toneri>Moon splitter feat
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The moon splitting feat is not what naruto spsm scales to. He scales to the six paths catastrophic planetary construction which is 403 exatons. But please correct me if I'm wrong...
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If you change it Piccolo it could be fair since even though Delta has The AP advantage Piccolo is Faster than her or U can change it to Raditz the AP gap would be low then & Raditz is Faster
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I can change it to Piccolo or Raditz (though I may have to change the name).
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Raditz scales to way above baseline 29 exatons so don't, change it to piccolo he scales to way above 177 exatons. And yeah you can unequalize speed but I think piccolo will clap if you do.
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Delta is FTL.
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Oh, I forgot about the speed upgrade. Yeah keep it equalized.
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Cool. Also, which key for Piccolo?
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Saiyan saga key.
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Changes have been applied.
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The only way I see Piccolo winning is if the blast multiplier is high enough (no calc) and Piccolo's experience.
Edit: Forgot speed was equalized, I can now see this go either way.
Edit: Forgot speed was equalized, I can now see this go either way.
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SO6Ps Naruto only scales to half of it so Moon splitter is the strongest feat he scales too
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I see, so toneri is 355 exatons and BSM naruto much stronger and one shots while his SPSM is far stronger than that and that's what delta scales to. So from what I have I think it goes, 355 exatons = Toneri <<< BSM naruto <<< delta < SPSM naruto.
Piccolo scales to exactly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 177.6 Exatons, You can find the exact scale on the blog in the db verse page. It seems pretty even and the gap is 2x but it seems to be less because piccolo scales so high.
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Its larger then that
Toneri did that feat as a side effect so it is slightly below him
BSM has alot more > then that as a 50% chakra version overpowered Toneris 355 exaton attack and then one shot toneri
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We scale toneri to his attack so why would he scale above? And Naruto was at half power? I don't really know about that but I doubt it because if that was true then SPSM would be small planet level for the 2x increase which he's not on the wiki.
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If you've got evidence for that, you could always make a CRT to get the ratings changed.
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He was at 50% chakra so it isn't two times just something that is much higher
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Wad he a clone or something or did he use a clond to split his chakra?
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Its more half of Kurama was outside of him and since Sage mode is a multiplier it rounds out to around half of his chakra
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Funny enough, there's a CRT trying to get them upgraded to Low 5-B.
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Yeah thats why I didn't respond to you. Because well its already happening
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Well there is no reason for naruto to be far stronger at full power then at half if half chakra doesn't mean half power. So toneri < 50% BSM < full power BSM <<< SPSM
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