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Deku vs Ruby Rose

Spinoirr

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Speed is equal and both are high 8-C (base villain hunt arc vs post-haven ruby rose)

Deku: 7
Ruby rose:
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TauanVictor said:
What would a Grimm be?
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These
"The Creatures of Grimm, or just Grimm, are monsters inhabiting various parts of Remnant. The Grimm were originally created by the God of Darkness and their current master is Salem.

They are described as "creatures of destruction" that lack a soul; hence, they are unable to use Aura. They are also drawn to feelings of negativity - such as envy, sadness, loneliness, hatred, etc. - often congregating on the source of these emotions." - rwby wiki

Basically her silver eyes are always useless out of her verse
 
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And so the age old battle returns. Though now we’re taking away Full Cowl completely? This might be the most nerfed version of Deku thus far.

To begin, Deku predicts all of Ruby’s movements with Danger Sense and Analytical Prediction, absolutely stomps on her with his combat knowledge and uses Fa Jin + Float + Blackwhip to stay as mobile as possible. Her enhanced senses don’t have many feats to my knowledge so Smokescreen is pretty good to use as well in response to her trying to hit him.

Essentially, Deku dodges. A lot. He’s far above Ruby in both intelligence and defensive capabilities. So he becomes as annoying as possible to hit while building up Fa Jin to use, I guess, “Faux Full Cowl?” and hit Ruby when he can.

Eventually, she’s going to lose her aura and her semblance, at which point Deku just goes to town on her.

Ruby is more “skilled” in terms of fighting, but that doesn’t make up the disparity in versatility and intelligence. Deku easily has the tools to keep away from her while getting in his own hits to outlast and eventually beat her.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Deku easily has the tools to keep away from her while getting in his own hits to outlast and eventually beat her.
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Keeping away from her just puts him at risk for being sniped, what would happen if deku tries to block one and he gets frozen or launched back by ice or gravity dust bullets? even if deku dodges them they have AoE that would paralyze/freeze him and if she's using a gravity round they would still damage him even if she missed if he's close to it

also ruby's semblance would hard counter smokescreen
 
Spinoirr said:
Keeping away from her just puts him at risk for being sniped, what would happen if deku tries to block one and he gets frozen or launched back by ice or gravity dust bullets? even if deku dodges them they have AoE that would paralyze/freeze him and if she's using a gravity round they would still damage him even if she missed if he's close to it

also ruby's semblance would hard counter smokescreen
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He’s not blocking any bullets, he’s dodging them. Kinda hard to snipe him when he’s flying and yanking himself through the air spider man style while having permanently active precognition. Her bullets have to hit something to do their AoE, he’s just going to avoid them altogether.

Also, after he sees her change her rounds, he now knows her bullet types and is even more cautious and focused on dodging. So there goes her element of surprise.

Smokescreen is useless in literally every combat scenario, her being able to get rid of it doesn’t actually mean anything other than she’s now wasting her aura getting rid of it
 
Anyways here is post haven Ruby's scaleing chain

Post Beacon Weiss (6.9 tons) < Queen Lancer (Undamaged by 6.9 tons) < Arma Gigas (Stomped Queen Lancer) < Vernal (Oneshot Arma Gigas) = Weiss (Post-Haven) = Ruby (Post-Haven)
 
Spinoirr said:
Actually she always had them ever sense vol 4, ever sense the whole splitting apart and red blob she becomes that penny then actually explains finally
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Yeah, but that’s nothing he wouldn’t be able to deal with. My arguments take into account her feat against the Beringel. Danger Sense alerts him before she even reforms and he avoids it, and that’s without him just predicting it. Worst case scenario is she gets a hit in and he ignores the damage because pain tolerance, then Fa Jin kicks her in the face.

And no, she can’t get past him due to the speed of it, as he is trained to predict faster opponents and attacks.
Spinoirr said:
Anyways here is post haven Ruby's scaleing chain

Post Beacon Weiss (6.9 tons) < Queen Lancer (Undamaged by 6.9 tons) < Arma Gigas (Stomped Queen Lancer) < Vernal (Oneshot Arma Gigas) = Weiss (Post-Haven) = Ruby (Post-Haven)
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Upscaling rules don’t allow her to get too far. At best, she’s comparable enough to his dura to not be too weaker, while his AP is quite weaker without Fa Jin + Iron Soles amping him.

So they’re about equal when everything is accounted for. Then it becomes an intelligence and stamina matchup. And we know who wins that.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Yeah, but that’s nothing he wouldn’t be able to deal with. My arguments take into account her feat against the Beringel. Danger Sense alerts him before she even reforms and he avoids it, and that’s without him just predicting it. Worst case scenario is she gets a hit in and he ignores the damage because pain tolerance, then Fa Jin kicks her in the face.
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She doesnt need to reform to hit him with her semblance in this key actually, thats only for the Beacon Arc.
Kingofwolves999 said:
And no, she can’t get past him due to the speed of it, as he is trained to predict faster opponents and attacks.
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Faster opponents who can split into multiple bodies to avoid attacks and who are also intangible?
 
Spinoirr said:
She doesnt need to reform to hit him with her semblance in this key actually, thats only for the Beacon Arc.

Faster opponents who can split into multiple bodies to avoid attacks and who are also intangible?
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When has she not needed to reform in this key to do an attack? I remember having this exact same discussion but the only feat brought up was one in v7.

Yes. She can only attack from one body. So he’d dodge that one and hit her when she isn’t intangible. Because she never stays intangible for extended periods of time. Because her Aura is limited. As is her semblance.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
When has she not needed to reform in this key to do an attack? I remember having this exact same discussion but the only feat brought up was one in v7.
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Ever since the end of volume 3, she mastered her semblance during the timeskip between volumes 3 and 4 and has shown the ability to tackle people with her semblance active ever since then. She cant shoot or attack with her scythe though, but with th speed of her semblance she can easily dodge around while letting off minor attacks while looking for an opening.
Kingofwolves999 said:
Yes. She can only attack from one body. So he’d dodge that one and hit her when she isn’t intangible. Because she never stays intangible for extended periods of time. Because her Aura is limited. As is her semblance.
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Problem is there's going to be three bodies, he wont know which one she is until she is already attacking him
 
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