DEATHBATTLE! Accuracy Scale [Part 4]

[The_Calaca]

Standard Battle Assumptions

 

[Sorvoe551]

Standard equipment, no outside help or one-off things. Canon source first with non-canon support if possible in canon

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Default conditions in a fight, which include ways to achieve victory, the battle grounds, and the states of both characters.

 

[Sorvoe551]

What did you think of the assumption "Peak All-Might = 60x Current All-Might?" I forget whether that's accepted here or not

 

[Dust_Collector]

It used to be accepted, but not anymore.

 

[The_Calaca]

It's not. We debunked that long time ago.

 

[Theuser789]

@Theuser789 Did not know it was created before the revisions that boosted Mewtwo was based on came out. It's still wrong then, thanks.

Yeah, mid discussion I renembered the feat came from the manga chapter released on this month and then scaling was applied to comparable pokemon like Mewtwo, so it's still wrong no matter my discussion with Cal

 

[Sorvoe551]

So it reduces the accuracy of the episode with that assumption

 

[HenryWong122]

Yet another accurate DB what the heck isn't this witchcraft

It's called practice and experience.

 

[Radical_Resident_Khan]

Power of Love? Proof?

 

[ThePerpetual]

In what sense was using a stated multiplier of that sort "debunked", as opposed to simply no longer being used here?

 

[TitanCrusher101]

Power of Love? Proof?

Thought you were referring my ******** on Ryu earlier for a second there, lmao ;D

 

[Sorvoe551]

Okay, so based off the math and such for All Might vs Guy, I would say that it should be set at mid-low for Right, Good due to the assumption with All Might. What do you guys think about that?

 

[Sorvoe551]

Also, looking at Gaara after the Naruto downgrade, he still has a big enough power gap and speed gap (Mach 2915 vs Mach 593) to keep it Wrong, Bad

 

[Migue79]

Does Gaara even legitimately scale to any of the Rela+ shit Naruto has?

 

[Sorvoe551]

Considering only Guy has Relativistic stuff becuase of 8th Gate, no, no he doesn't

 

[Migue79]

I see...

Welp, even then, Toph's win was never legit. F

 

[Sorvoe551]

Yep, hence Wrong, Bad

 

[Sorvoe551]

Also, just want to make sure this is good before I post the list, Mewtwo vs Shadow is still Wrong, Decent because the Zygarde scaling didn't exist, Shadow resists mind hax, and is much stronger and faster, right?

 

[Migue79]

Also, I would just put AMvMG at the middle of Right Good. Their only mistake was to use the multiplier, but everything else is legit (especially with them plagiarizing using our SBA for their DB). But that's just me.

 

[Theuser789]

Also, just want to make sure this is good before I post the list, Mewtwo vs Shadow is still Wrong, Decent because the Zygarde scaling didn't exist, Shadow resists mind hax, and is much stronger and faster, right?

Yes, even more with Shadow's upgrades as well, from feats before the battle came out btw

 

[Migue79]

@Theuser789 What speed do the hedgehogs in Base Form scale to in this website? I'm a bit curious.

 

[Theuser789]

Currentely a little above 9c via the boost being 9 times faster than the Light Speed Attack in Unleashed

 

[Migue79]

Oof. -1c from being FTL+.

And I'd imagine Mewtwo before this new upgrade was 0.53c. Soooooo, yeah. Shadow just blitzes him.

 

[TitanCrusher101]

Just curious, since Gaara vs Toph is still wrong, but somewhat less wrong; would we adjust its placement?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So where would All Might vs Might Guy be on this list?

 

[TitanCrusher101]

It's been said above, somewhere in the middle of Right, Good due to a few hiccups but overall accuracy everywhere else.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Naruto VS Ichigo is actually more of a stomp then initially thought. Death Battle likes to use characters at their peak, but this rule does not apply to any forms the character may have.

This means we get Base Teen Naruto VS Post-Dangai Training Ichigo (Town level and Massively Hypersonic+ compared to Country level and Relativistic).

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

How about Ganodorf VS Dracula?

My opinion on it was, it was kinda accurate but not really. Dracula should have easily won with his passives ,etc.

Good Animation

 

[Genericstickman]

So Thanos returned to having a Low 1-C key, now we need to see if it's accurate

 

[TitanCrusher101]

Ganon vs Drac is probably Right, Decent due to the fact that they were like "Dracula wins due to better holy magic, lol." When in reality, he destroys him with or without holy magic.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

What's yall take on Miles vs Izuka (If it happens)?

 

[Radical_Resident_Khan]

Miles wins

 

[JohnConquest1]

Their excuses in the podcast about Belmonts not being able to touch Ganon kinda are the only thing they're wrong on. They have similar if not stronger conditional holy weapons for the fight and took hits from Drac. They seem very dead set in believing that Soma is the only protag on Dracs level.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

I think Doctor Strange should have beaten Doctor Fate.

 

[TitanCrusher101]

He blitzes him too hard for that to happen.

 

[Sorvoe551]

Hey everyone, I've been away for a few days with the holidays. Hope everyone who celebrated had a great time. So anyway, to cover a few points that have been mentioned in my absense:

Shadow vs Mewtwo: Because of the Zygarde scaling not existing yet, at the time Shadow hit harder, was much faster, and resisted mind hax, so it's still Wrong, Decent.

All Might vs Might Guy: Besides the multiplier error, the battle was very accurate. For clarification, Prime All Might is "...considerably above his storm feat" according to Calaca. So he technically could hit as hard as the mark they gave for his high end.

Toph vs Gaara: Despite the downgrade, Gaara still hits harder and blitzes, so it's Wrong, Bad.

Naruto vs Ichigo: With the downgrades, Naruto is now much slower and he doesn't hit as hard. I still believe that with the various forms it would be a long fight, but ultimately Ichigo would win. So now it's Wrong, Decent.

Ganon vs Dracula: While the specific numbers are (incredibly) lowballed, the similar speed and massive power gap is still illustrated, as well as the acknowledgement of Universal Castlevania, I believe it should be within the top 20.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I'll be making a Modern Doctor Fate profile, for those whom are interested.

 

[Sorvoe551]

So before I post the current list, here are some clarification points for the new list:

- Because of there now being 119 DB episodes and Meta vs Carolina getting the 0 position, the list starts at 118.

-Joke battles take up the bottom of the list, so the "real list" starts at 114.

-I moved Naruto vs Ichigo to Wrong, Decent due to the Naruto downgrades

-I added Ghost Rider vs Lobo to Iffy due to the Type 8 Immortality issue and the debate over the Penance Stare and Zarathos soul-eating.

-Because no one has discussed it yet and one of the combatant's profile is relatively new, I left Beast vs Goliath as Iffy for now, but removed it from the "no profile" group (Felicia and Bucky)

 

[Sorvoe551]

With all that being said, here's the list up to Right, Good:

41. Ben 10 vs Green Lantern (because of the Pre-Crisis stuff for GL)

42. Black Widow vs Widowmaker

43. The Flash vs Quicksilver

44. Tracer vs The Scout

45. Jak & Daxter vs Ratchet & Clank

46. Thor Odinson vs Raiden

47. Luke Skywalker vs Harry Potter

48. Raven vs Twilight Sparkle

49. Voltron vs Dino Megazord

50. He-Man vs Lion-O

51. Ivy Valentine vs Black Orchid

52. Pokémon vs Digimon (aka Red & Charizard vs Tai Yagami & Greymon)

53. Dante vs Bayonetta

54. Natsu Dragneel vs Portgas D. Ace

55. Kirby vs Majin Buu

56. Fulgore vs Sektor

57. Pokémon Battle Royale (purely wild versions)

58. Luigi vs Miles "Tails" Prower

59. Thor Odinson vs Wonder Woman

60. Lucario vs Renamon (Generic)

61. Shao Kahn vs M. Bison

62. Ken Masters vs Terry Bogard

63. Scrooge McDuck vs Shovel Knight

64. Amy Rose vs Ramona Flowers

65. Ragna the Bloodedge vs Sol Badguy (at the time)

66. Ryu vs Scorpion

67. Mario vs Sonic the Hedgehog 1

68. Chun-Li vs Mai Shiranui

69. Mega Man vs Astro Boy

70. Zitz vs Leonardo

71. Samus Aran vs Boba Fett 2

72. Mario vs Sonic the Hedgehog 2

73. Akuma vs Shang Tsung

74. Jotaro Kujo vs Kenshiro

75. Sephiroth vs Vergil (at the time)

76. Starscream vs Rainbow Dash

77. Aquaman vs Namor

78. Kratos vs Spawn

79. Yoshi vs Riptor

80. Son Goku vs Superman 1

81. Princess Zelda vs Princess Peach

82. Samus Aran vs Boba Fett 1

83. Android 18 vs Captain Marvel

84-85. Felicia vs Taokaka, Fox McCloud vs Bucky O'Hare

86. Ghost Rider vs Lobo

87. Beast vs Goliath

88. Sora vs Pit

89.Daredevil vs Nightwing

90. Cammy White vs Sonya Blade

91. Sub-Zero vs Glacius

92. Naruto Uzumaki vs Ichigo Kurosaki

93. Ryu Hayabusa vs Strider Hiryu

94. Donkey Kong vs Knuckles the Echidna

95. Batman vs Captain America

96. The Shredder vs Silver Samurai

97. Ryu vs Jin Kazama

98. Mechagodzilla (Millenium) vs Dragonzord

99. Mewtwo vs Shadow the Hedgehog

100. Dr. Eggman vs Dr. Wily

101. Vegeta vs Shadow the Hedgehog

102. Bowser vs Ganondorf

103. Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099

104. Link vs Cloud Strife

105. Tigerzord vs Gundam Epyon

106. Son Goku vs Superman 2

107. Carnage vs Lucy

108. Rogue vs Wonder Woman

109. Gaara vs Toph Bei Fong

110. Pikachu vs Blanka

111. Sasuke Uchiha vs Hiei

112. Guts vs Nightmare

113.Yang Xiao Long vs Tifa Lockheart

114. Bomberman vs Dig Dug

115. Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro

116. Goomba vs Koopa

117. Justin Bieber vs Rebecca Black

118. Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie