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In re-reading a lot of the Lucifer (2000) run to try and revise some of the profiles here on the wiki, I noticed also in the recent conversation about 1-A beings and their True-Godly Regenerationn that there are some issues I have with Lucifer's profile.
Firstly, Lucifer is attributed with True-Godly Regenerationn because of him being unaffected by several layers of Death Manipulation and as well as resisting the Basanos' infinite deaths at once. The problem with this that PaChi even brought up on the True-Godly thread is that this should be classified as resistance to Death Manipulation, not Regenerationn.
The fact that Death herself has no claim over Lucifer is taken out of context. The real reason she has no claim over Lucifer is because it was not yet time for Lucifer to truly die. This makes sense given our previous knowledge that Death exists for things that aren't even considered "living" by conventional standards such as other immortal gods and aspects of The Endless. While some minor death gods might not be able to affect the Morningstar, Death is certainly not something he is immune to.
This is shown furthermore when during the pursuit of Fenris to the Yggdrasil, Lucifer was able to mortally wound Michael. Michael states himself that he is dying and it becomes a further plot point when Elaine is forced to take in his power.
It's important to note that Michael and Lucifer are regarded as equals throughout the entire plot of the comic. Michael was unable to regenerate whatsoever after taking that damage from Lucifer and died. Therefore, I do not think that Lucifer Morningstar (DC Comics) or Michael Demiurgos should have True-Godly Regenerationn from what I have seen there, nor are they completely immune to the concept of Death.
Unless they scale from a feat of another being somehow, True-Godly Regenerationn should be removed from their profiles. I'm not sure what it should be replaced with, but we could answer this in the thread below.
Firstly, Lucifer is attributed with True-Godly Regenerationn because of him being unaffected by several layers of Death Manipulation and as well as resisting the Basanos' infinite deaths at once. The problem with this that PaChi even brought up on the True-Godly thread is that this should be classified as resistance to Death Manipulation, not Regenerationn.
The fact that Death herself has no claim over Lucifer is taken out of context. The real reason she has no claim over Lucifer is because it was not yet time for Lucifer to truly die. This makes sense given our previous knowledge that Death exists for things that aren't even considered "living" by conventional standards such as other immortal gods and aspects of The Endless. While some minor death gods might not be able to affect the Morningstar, Death is certainly not something he is immune to.
This is shown furthermore when during the pursuit of Fenris to the Yggdrasil, Lucifer was able to mortally wound Michael. Michael states himself that he is dying and it becomes a further plot point when Elaine is forced to take in his power.
It's important to note that Michael and Lucifer are regarded as equals throughout the entire plot of the comic. Michael was unable to regenerate whatsoever after taking that damage from Lucifer and died. Therefore, I do not think that Lucifer Morningstar (DC Comics) or Michael Demiurgos should have True-Godly Regenerationn from what I have seen there, nor are they completely immune to the concept of Death.
Unless they scale from a feat of another being somehow, True-Godly Regenerationn should be removed from their profiles. I'm not sure what it should be replaced with, but we could answer this in the thread below.
