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A databook for a table-top game based on the anime says the Spirit Bomb is equivalent to a small supernova.
The original manga says that it has the potential to destroy a planet.
Something isn't adding up.
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A databook for a table-top game based on the anime says the Spirit Bomb is equivalent to a small supernova.
The original manga says that it has the potential to destroy a planet.
Something isn't adding up.
Didn,t I debunk you in you that super thread ? do you wanna go again ? I wont hesitate to slap you again.A databook for a table-top game based on the anime says the Spirit Bomb is equivalent to a small supernova.
The original manga says that it has the potential to destroy a planet.
Something isn't adding up.
Stated to be able to destroy the universe. We soon understand how he would execute it, by opening enough dimensional walls.I forgot this is manga goku not amine , regardless , buu is stated to have universal power
Or here androids are stated to be a universal thread
Innumerable? Really?With solar system busting statement , and the daizenshuu comfirming there is innumerable stars in a nebula or a solar system in this case, therefor anyone scaling for super perfect cell= multi-solar system + to universal normaly
Didn,t I debunk you in you that super thread ? do you wanna go again ? I wont hesitate to slap you again.
And the scan you gave doesn't imply what you said, he just said, be careful so that it doesn't destroy the planet. Not that it's only planet level or it's is limit.
Innumerable stars , in a galactic nebula , and you dare say that I didn't prove anything when you cannot read properly ?Stated to be able to destroy the universe. We soon understand how he would execute it, by opening enough dimensional walls.
Debunked above shown how it's a vague ass statement.
Innumerable? Really?
We see a limit on the universe, which means it's finite. If it's finite, it's not innumerable.
If you google "definition of innumerable" it says
"too many to be counted (often used hyperbolically)".
Nobody sits there and counts stars. People say in the real world we have an innumerable amount of stars even though it's finite. Nobody would count grains of sand, is that High 3-A since people can't count it?
Can someone make a fun and games thread called "scans taken out of context"? I have a post to start it off right here.
Irrelevant , completely irrelevant , I never said that amine=manga , RE READ MY COMMENT. You are the idiotic one , I NEVER SAID , AMINE=MANGA , AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT that what this person scans showed me , is the very similar to what this video says not to mention this scene is from kai. STRAWMAN FALLACY, WERE DO YOU SEE ME SAY , ANIIME=MANGA , YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHY I POSTED THIS VID THERE. Argument from ignorance , ad nauseam.Anime ≠ Manga.
Don't be disrespectful then pull a secondary source, you look idiotic.
Ok.Innumerable stars , in a galactic nebula , and you dare say that I didn't prove anything when you cannot read properly ?
If you see the definition of innumerable , it's too big to be counted and is a synonym for countless or infinite.
It doesn't matter no body counts stars , you have to prove that said statements is "hyperbolic" which you cannot prove. Also you have to prove that there is finite stars in the universe.
The universe is finite in size. Of course the stars are ******* finite in numbers.
You don't even know what argument from ignorance and ad nauseam is.Irrelevant , completely irrelevant , I never said that amine=manga , RE READ MY COMMENT. You are the idiotic one , I NEVER SAID , AMINE=MANGA , AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT that what this person scans showed me , is the very similar to what this video says not to mention this scene is from kai. STRAWMAN FALLACY, WERE DO YOU SEE ME SAY , ANIIME=MANGA , YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHY I POSTED THIS VID THERE. Argument from ignorance , ad nauseam.
REPOST YOUR IMAGE , I cannot see it. Regardless , the "borders" is limitations of the screen , if they wanted to show those "borders" it will not be possible unless they display it as finite even when it isn't .Ok.
We see it has borders. We also see the planets. Calculate the size off of the planets, we see it's finite.
That's your opinion , but let's go since you have problem with me.You don't even know what argument from ignorance and ad nauseam is.
Just proved you , if it,s stated to be infinite, and they decided to show the borders or show a finite distance , this finite distance is infinite. It's only a limitation of what the screen can display. I asked you to repost the image.Prove the borders don't show that it's finite.
I asked you TO REPOST THE IMAGE AGAIN. Saying a failed is not argument, ******* delusional.Failed to do*
Never stated to be infinite, stated to be innumerable which means that humans can't count up to it.Just proved you , if it,s stated to be infinite, and they decided to show the borders or show a finite distance , this finite distance is infinite. It's only a limitation of what the screen can display. I asked you to repost the image.
Hostile as hell for no reason. Take and sleepI asked you TO REPOST THE IMAGE AGAIN.
Who said it's an argument? StrawmanSaying a failed is not argument, ******* delusional.
I WILL MAKE THIS VERY VERY CLEAR AS POSSIBLE.Never stated to be infinite, stated to be innumerable which means that humans can't count up to it.
You can fall asleep before you count up to it, simple. That works, but you assume infinite.
Hostile as hell for no reason. Take and sleep
Who said it's an argument? Strawman
I would've reported you by now if I did.And after this thread is closed or this discussion is over , You better not reply to any of
my futures comments I may make , i'm warning you , I'm not here to be ban , because , has a bad opinion of me.
Completely irrelevant, I though you would should a galaxy or star system.
I didn't do anything, you started first saying that I looked idiotic, it's you not me. And if it's for derailing, then pretty much everyone here including you.I would've reported you by now if I did.
I have a bad opinion of a good portion of this wiki and I still like their comments whenever they're correct. Someone called me a failed CRT maker and I liked their comments before and argued on their behalf.
I do what I please if it doesn't break rules.
The scan you sent said innumerable.I I WILL MAKE THIS VERY VERY CLEAR AS POSSIBLE.
THE SCAn I gave you, is talking about innumerable stars in a galatic , nebula , the infinite stated was for the universe since I coudn't see the image you were posting.
Innumerable is a synomym of countless or infinite.
You said , that I failed to prove , which is referring to the past , which is also referring to an argument, that I couldn't supposedly prove.
I could call out all your strawman that did in this thread.
I said universe left and right, your scan shows countless stars and galaxies. If it was infinite, there wouldn't be a fixed size.Completely irrelevant, I though you would should a galaxy or star system.
Prove it.The map isn't to scale , it was never stated to be into scale I can even argue this macroverse to be way bigger than people thinks it to be.
When did I talk about derailing?I didn't do anything, you started first saying that I looked idiotic, it's you not me. And if it's for derailing, then pretty much everyone here including you.
I have a message wall.Also the rest of your statement is none of my concern, I'm telling you to never reply to me after this discussion is close
I want no problem, with this wiki that ban people because they do not like them personally or "gets into their nerves.
HOW many times do I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF. The scan I gave you is talking about innumerable stars in a nebula or a solar system.The scan you sent said innumerable.
We see the universe, it shows its finite.
Please tell me 1st person POV is finite.
I said universe left and right, your scan shows countless stars and galaxies. If it was infinite, there wouldn't be a fixed size.
Prove it.
When did I talk about derailing?
I have a message wall.
Bring all personal concerns there.
When did you prove it's not meant to scale?I already proved that , you never proved that it was to scale , and you are the one trying to imply that it is , can you prove why it's to scale.
I will repeat again, there is limitations of the screen also , can you prove that this is the universe or the end of it. Not to mention , the space that are between universes is on a 5d scale, so if this what they were trying to show, then compare to that it would be less infinite. Because the universe would be a 4d space-time continuum and the space between them would 4 dimensional it would unquantifiably bigger than this infinite universe.Ok.
We see the scan in first person.
We visibly see limits.
It's not a model, we actually stare at the universes.
When did you prove it's not meant to scale?
We visually see it. Keep going.
You accuse me of Ad Nauseum, but that's all you've been doing.
**** limitations of the screen.I will repeat again, there is limitations of the screen also , can you prove that this is the universe or the end of it , since in the background of the video you linked , we can see luminous celestial bodies in the background. It was stated to be infinite, the distance being showed is also infinite, they have chosen to display it this way than they would have to make it look finite even when it's not.
I will ask you this , if the map doesn't scale wtf are you trying to prove , because I could therefor say that since the universe was said to be infinite and that snake way is 1 million kilometers and that it's big portion of heaven which is stated to be universal in size is not to scale. For you argument to make any sense , you have to prove that it,s to scale which you did not do .
You have done ad nauseam, saying i didn't prove that ssj3 goku is multi solar system level when I proved it above.
You have to prove that those are the universes first. And, yes there are limitations of the screen to display, "****" is not an answer and is therefore not an argument.**** limitations of the screen.
They zoom out and the universe gets smaller. They would've kept showing it.
I sent you a video for the sole purpose of showing their actual size compared to finite sized objects and you said it's not fit to scale?
You can see Super Shenron measured via Beerus who's comparable to Goku in size, a finite size creature. Super Shenron towers over the universes and galaxies, making them finite.
I'm tired of this. You haven't proved shit.
You use Ad Nauseum then accuse someone else of doing it. You won't prove anything, you sent like 2 scans and won't justify them, only taking the largest possible rating.
A myriad of scans show that they're finite. Daizenshuu 4 says it's compared to ours which is finite, using countless as a hyperbole since we have confirmed sizes for our universe.
You're just dodging at this point then you accuse people of committing fallacies.
They're finite, that's that.
I'm not reading all of that.
Ykw? Lemme stop being hostile and just pull out more scans.
The Kaioshin realm is shown to be finite on multiple occasions.
We get confirmation that it's 1/10th the size of the Macrocosm.
The macrocosm is supposed to be infinite correct?
Why is a finite planet 1/10th of an infinite realm?
I will provide both debunks for the manga and the amineI respect your consideration. Apologies for my previous hostility.
Bulma says there's an edge and a center of the universe.
Infinity has no center, no edge, none of that.
In chapter 3 of the manga "Jiya", or part of Akira Toriyama's Galactic Patrol series, we get information that there are 200 billion stars in the galaxy, a countable and finite number.
https://s3.**********.com/manga/Jiya/0003-034.png
We see Gohan there. Gohan is 5'9. Compare him to the landmasses and then eventually, you'll find out the size of the planet (you don't need to).
It is finite.
@Gilad_Hyperstar this is not derailment. He said there are an infinite number of stars in the solar system and that Cell could destroy it, which would give a High 3-A rating (he didn't say High 3-A, but that's what would come from it).
This topic was about why DBZ Goku isn't 4-A, and then the topics got completely changed and now the thread became just you and elhermano arguing on diffetent topicsthis is not derailment. He said there are an infinite number of stars in the solar system and that Cell could destroy it, which would give a High 3-A rating (he didn't say High 3-A, but that's what would come from it).
It's a debunk on his claim of larger than Solar Cell, which means no larger than Solar Gohan, which means no larger than Solar SSJ2 Goku, and no basis on SSJ3, which is the topic of the OP.