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DBS Goku resistances

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There's two resistances I wanna add for DBS Goku (manga):

Resistance to Magic (broke free from Gas' gravity spell) &

Resistance to Time Stop (broke through Hit's Time-Skip)

There might be two arguments against the second one, so I'll address them now:

''It's not Time Stop.''

''I could only stop time for less than 0.1 seconds!?'' and ''I will definitely stop you for 0.1 seconds.'' Hit makes it very clear that his ability can stop time, too.

''Hit couldn't stop Goku because he's weaker.''

Hit confirms he stopped Goku in his last attempt, verbatim saying ''I did it!'' In the T.O.P., Hit furtermore confirms Goku broke through his ability (I included this in the original resistance link as well).
As for scaling: Hit's able to dodge a Kamehameha from SSB Goku, who's claiming to ''release everything I got'' into this attack, which should prove they're somewhat relative, too.

Both should be pretty straightforward.

Also, there's a bunch of broken links in Goku's profile. Large Size, Forcefield Creation, Breath Attack and BFR need to be replaced, which I'd be willing to do.
 
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godofice said:
If it’s a magical spell that’s via gravity manip why can’t it be both?
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Because to break the spell you don't necessarily have to resist the gravity part. It could still be argued he has resistance to it, but it'd be a separate resistance. Don't know how many people'll agree with that though.
 
SamanPatou said:
Didn't they explicitly say in the manga that Hit's power doesn't work on stronger opponents?
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BOEGVELD said:
''Hit couldn't stop Goku because he's weaker.''

Hit confirms he stopped Goku in his last attempt, verbatim saying ''I did it!'' In the T.O.P., Hit furtermore confirms Goku broke through his ability.
As for scaling: Hit's able to dodge a Kamehameha from SSB Goku, who's claiming to ''release everything I got'' into this attack, which should prove they're somewhat relative, too.
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I addressed this in the OP. They should be relative based on scaling, but Hit also verbatim says ''I did it!'' while trying to stop Goku. He furthmore confirms Goku broke through his ability in the Tournament of Power.
 
Disagree with the second option it was literally stated that the reason why Hit hax didn't work on Goku was because he was weaker
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
Disagree with the second option it was literally stated that the reason why Hit hax didn't work on Goku was because he was weaker
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That was prior to Hit powering up. He used it once more after powering up, and confirmed it worked. I've already addressed this in the OP.
 
BOEGVELD said:
Because to break the spell you don't necessarily have to resist the gravity part. It could still be argued he has resistance to it, but it'd be a separate resistance. Don't know how many people'll agree with that though.
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That doesn’t make sense
Jason_Courne said:
If it's a magical based gravity attack, wouldn't it still be gravity manipulation?
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yeah that’s what I’m saying similar to how ee can be done via reality warping gravity manip can be a subtype of magic
 
I agree with resistance to Magic and I see the point that resistance to Gravity Manipulation wouldn't work here (he broke the spell causing it, it isn't resisting the gravity itself). As for the Time Skip feat, I feel Hit is smart enough to correctly deduce he stopped SSG Goku and for Goku to go SSB during Time Skip he would obviously need to be able to resist it, he's taking action mid-Time Stop.

Agreed:
Magic Resistance
Time Stop Resistance
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
I agree with Goku having resistance to time manipulation, but I personally think resistance to gravity manipulation makes more sense than resistance to magic.
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How so? Gas doesn't say he broke free of the gravity, but that he broke free of his spell.
 
I do think that there should be a note on Goku's profile stating how his Resistance to Time Stop functions, since he wouldn't just be able to resist pretty much any version that falls outside of his own verse
 
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Lonkitt said:
I do think that there should be a note on Goku's profile stating how his Resistance to Time Stop functions, since he wouldn't just be able resist pretty much any version that falls outside of his own verse
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So would it be limited resistance? It seems to me something so specific that how could they be used in vs battles? Would the stop of time have to be done through a power system or have a statement that it can be broken with a higher power?
 
Phsccarvalho said:
So would it be limited resistance? It seems to me something so specific that how could they be used in vs battles? Would the stop of time have to be done through a power system or have a statement that it can be broken with a higher power?
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Limited Resistance is probably better, given certain abilities in Dragon Ball are rendered null to individuals with greater power levels
 
All resistances are limited, as long as it's not an immunity.
 
Lonkitt said:
Limited Resistance is probably better, given certain abilities in Dragon Ball are rendered null to individuals with greater power levels
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Goku didn't resist it due to being stronger though. That was prior to Hit powering up, but can't really be classified as resistance anyway.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
But it's the manga version that says this explicitly. That's why goku anime has resistance to time stop.
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It's a different timeline with different powerscaling though? Not contesting that's why goku resists it, but I don't see the problem with people having a resistence to time stop just passively via being stronger. It's not like they're powernulling the technique either.;
 
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